Well !

Ok Torque is not bad : but less easy than 3DGS and you won't create a little
prototype game as fast !

well The Torque Shader Demo is slow : and i bet it will not change a lot
when it's done :i wait for a next demo !

3DGS is slow with Blocks BSP :
but we can use a trick :
use models with LOD instead and with a multitexture shader :
standar texture + lightpmap exported from Render TO Texture in 3DSMAX for example !

And like i said : there's not a lot of game developped and as cool as with 3DGS !

When i say torque is outdated :
they've just brought the Lighting pack :
Incredible : Toruqe didn't have real lightning : LET ME LAUGHT !
And for light pack you may pay 100$

with 3DGS: real lightning is real time light and is included like all other
engines !!

INCREDIBLE : you must pay more with TOrque to have real time lightning !!
real time light should be included in the base package :
THAT's A BIG SHAME and i think they think we are complete idiots to
buy a game engine and buy also real time lightinig (that should be included) !

I know that Torque engine code are outdated : and people are trying to rewrite the code at garage games !
actually IS NOT BAD OR VERY FAR FROM 3DGS and we can make incredible terrains really fast :
but their editors are not very simple also !
and 3DGS has no terrain editor at all !!

I really love 3DGS (i have the commercial and it's top) ,
but i'm not fanatic :
for exmaple to have :
-mirros
-render to texture
-vehicle engine (in dev)
you must pay the pro :That's a shame !
these thing should be in the commercial !

go look at Truevision3D engine and their incoming beta :
you'll have all mirros,render to text,vehicle engine for free to do
non commercial games !
But TrueVision 3D have no LEVEL Editor : a big Bad point !

Torque and 3DGS have their own ,and with a level editor can start creating is game 5 minutes (no needs to spend months writing your world editor) !

Well you see ,i'm not fanatic ,i know lot of 3D engines and for me
3DGS is the most easy and bring you results faster than any other !