Red Ocktober,

Everyone at GS and Torque is just waiting for you to support anything you say with a practical demonstartion in support of your theories. I mean one you have created personally. We await the download of any game you personally complete with complex geometery and 30 different actors running around - any game at all - lets see it then. Your creation not someone elses, made with any indie engine you care to utilise. Show us all how to do it. If you can you wont have time to spend here.....you'll be too busy counting your money and you'll deserve it.

Till then I'm outta here.......so much nonsense.....just a lotta talk and hot air.........you ought to be a politician........I got better things to waste my time on. bye

This is not a serious thread - I suggest everyone ignore it.