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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: WretchedSid] #363413
03/12/11 17:24
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Well I'd like some actual information. What's on TV here right now is starting to get on my nerves. Greenpeace seems to have sent out hordes of their "experts" which are on the screen all the time and you don't have to guess how they assess the situation which also is based on information that pretty much are nonexistent...

The sad thing as I see it is that this plant is like 60 years old and was meant to be turned off this year (at least that was told on TV recently)...

Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: Toast] #363415
03/12/11 17:34
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@Datenschreck ist eine gute Quelle für news die ich aktuell nutze, wiederholt sich nicht und kann Japanisch. Außerdem drückt er/sie einem nicht ständig irgendeine selbsterdachte Experten Meinung in die Fresse.

Ich mein, was da passiert interessiert mich ja schon, nur wenn alles was dabei rüberkommt wannabe experten sind dann kann das Ding auch jetzt gleich explodieren bzw anderweitig kaputt gehen, wissenswertes kommt da eh nichts raus, nur der Profilierungsversuch von halb Deutschland.


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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: WretchedSid] #363417
03/12/11 17:38
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Meanwhile, the forum still awaits a single example of a "wannabe expert opinion" in this thread.

(You did notice my EDIT in reply to yours?)


Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.

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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: Error014] #363419
03/12/11 17:43
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Argh, sorry, didn't saw your edit:

Quote:
While I begin to understand your argument, it seems to be extremely misplaced in this thread. Because there is not a single one "wannabe expert"-opinion. The usual post here is "Last thing I've read is *THAT*". This is not even an opinion. That's just stating the latest news for the rest.

Damn, sorry, no I didn't wanted to say that this thread is full of them, but that around me everyone behaves like a expert (my second post). It got so annoying that I made the third post with the wish that this god damn reactor should explode right now (which possibly derailed the thread, but it was interesting and refreshing because it wasn't the same again and again).

Edit: Great, german, article: http://www.physikblog.eu/2011/03/12/dampf-im-kessel-druck-und-siedewasserreaktoren/
(Ich geb denen mal den entsprechenden vertrauensvorschuss und glaub denen was da steht)

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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: WretchedSid] #363432
03/12/11 18:17
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i just read that they have the Situation under control. however at this point would a nuclear meltdown really make the situation that much worse? I think the earthquake and the following tsunami did more damage then a nuclear meltdown would do. hundreds perhaps thousands of people died from the earthquake and tsunami. If there was a nuclear meltdown perhaps a couple dozen people would die. the surrounding area is already evacuated. the long term damage to the environment would be the worst part of it all.

I am surprised how well the buildings held up in the earthquake. japan was ready for a large earthquake its too bad they were not ready for the tsunami.


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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: msmith2468] #363441
03/12/11 18:57
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hey, wannabe expert here. let me talk a little about this, to fulfill all chlichees, because that one is the last one missing, so here I go:

the reactor was shut down imediately. no real damage done. a small leak was detected, but its under control now and everything is fine.

the meltdown that everybody talks about was not about the core. it was about the cooling system that needed to be active while the reactor shuts down. america handled that with sending in air supply (bad, bad america, bad terrorist america sheesh, stop doing that) and by the end of the day (japanese day, sunday) everything should be nicely under control.
wannabe expert opinion closed...

ps.: we need nuclear power. cant survive without it. end of discussion...

edit: hundrets of thousands did not die. a few hundret at max. japanese people are used to earthquakes. not that size, but still...

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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: sPlKe] #363446
03/12/11 19:23
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Originally Posted By: sPlKe


edit: hundrets of thousands did not die. a few hundret at max. japanese people are used to earthquakes. not that size, but still...


if your referring to what i said then your slightly mistaken. i said hundreds perhaps thousands died. not hundreds of thousands. hundreds perhaps thousands refers to a number in the range of 100 - 10,000 where hundreds of thousands refers to numbers in the range of 100,000 - 1,000,000

Either way its a terrible disaster and im glad they worked out the situation with the nuclear plant.


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Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: SchokoKeks] #363460
03/12/11 19:54
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Originally Posted By: SchokoKeks
This makes me happy that I live in Germany, one of the few countries that has already started to abandon nuclear power.


The earthquake destroyed also a dam and many people drowned
However most of us are not scared about dams, floods being considered a natural disaster

Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: AlbertoT] #363464
03/12/11 20:00
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a flood is bad but you can clean up and go on afterwards. after a nuclear accident an area can be uninhabitable for a very long time. it's kind of clear why people are more afraid of the second. japan also is a lot more densely populated than the area around chernobyl.

Re: nuclear meltdown in japan [Re: ventilator] #363468
03/12/11 20:14
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Quote:
we need nuclear power. cant survive without it. end of discussion...


Oh, if only it were that simple...
(It's not. As long as you believe you can summarize the discussion in not even one line, you're probably misinformed)


Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.

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