If a company has its customers demanding new collision shapes, its your responsibility to provide for the customers needs. I looked at the examples posted in this thread as well as the other one (forgot what it was called), and I have not had ANY trouble understanding their argument. So where is the problem? I understand that adding new collision shaped may be troublesome and require proper testing. But isnt that what this community is for? Release a few betas and let us test it. Thats what you have done in the past and that system works. You guys sure didnt have a problem migrating to Lite-C in a rather speedy matter wink I say we should get a poll going to see exactly where tis community stands.