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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: WretchedSid] #375302
06/24/11 20:37
06/24/11 20:37
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You laughed about me and my projects in the past and thats totally okay


Not about you, specifically, but yeah, I'm not a saint. I used to post long, elaborate posts about newbie projects that pointed out almost any flaw. I went through some of them again recently, and going through them is awful, because, and there's no better way of saying it, I was an absolute, complete asshole.

Maybe I should actually apologize to some people (though, I'm afraid, most of them aren't here anymore. Lukas is still here, right? I think I owe him an apology). Because, unlike you, I believe that this is not okay. It's never okay to laugh at people, and it's especially not okay to laugh at people who spend time to create something interesting, and fun. Gamedesign is, in some ways, a very altruistic hobby. After all, you always finetune it to improve someone else's experience, it's never about your own. It's about "the player", hopefully many other people, who you just want to have a good time. Yeah, of course there's also the commercial side of "I'm makin' millions!". But really, this may not quite apply to many of us people here.


Bashing someone because he or she falls short of high expectations, makes mistakes, or thinks too highly of themselves... It all seems like a cheap way to get laughs. It is easy, and you usually don't lose anything doing it. But at the same time, it's not a good move. It's arrogant, and it's pathetic.

I'm guilty of it, and I try to improve that. I'm sure I fall short of that goal.
I'm not proud of the times where, to put it bluntly, I often was an ass. If anyone from back then that I bashed on reads this, my apologies. I went too far. Sorry.


Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.

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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: Error014] #375306
06/24/11 20:56
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Originally Posted By: Error014
It's never okay to laugh at people, and it's especially not okay to laugh at people who spend time to create something interesting, and fun.

I had quite a lot fun in this thread, so mission accomplished? I don't know, but I don't feel like the OP of this thread spend any time at all creating something interesting. He certainly learned from it, like we all learn by doing things...
There is a difference between noob projects and projects so stupid that I either want to cry or just laugh. This thread here, this project this thread was about totally falls under the latter part.


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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: WretchedSid] #375332
06/24/11 22:11
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Originally Posted By: Error014
(though, I'm afraid, most of them aren't here anymore. Lukas is still here, right? I think I owe him an apology)

Yes, I'm still here, although I haven't posted so much lately.
Are you referring to your post in my Rudi the Tin thread? I still remember it, not because I was angry, but because it actually made me laugh. laugh

Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: Lukas] #375352
06/25/11 00:35
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idk, there is a sort of camaraderie to a forum though. for instance, Ive got into it a little with some forum members (none pop to mind immediately) but i hold no ill will, and i laugh at others the same way that people should laugh at me. Its nothing personal against the OP, its a lesson in tough skin in a social group. its phenomenon seen around the world and its a proven social construct. That is why hazing is a part of many tight nit groups. Shared hardship often brings people closer. I know it sounds counter intuitive but its the natural process of the introduction of a new social group member to prove that not only does he have the heart to stick in there when its tough, to stay loyal to the forum, but to also be able to take honest criticism down the road when he is able to make something significant.

Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: lostclimate] #375360
06/25/11 07:18
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this thread's title combined with the "cool guy"-smiley right next to it makes me chuckle a little every time I see it.


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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: Sajeth] #375363
06/25/11 07:48
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What is OP? grin And this thread is sucks, just one newbie came down and wanted everyone help them in making next doom killer. If they were "pushing" anything to it's limits, I think there were no need to make it so official. They could just push it and publish it, that's all... grin Reading first post makes me laugh again and again, and not only the first post, but how everyone believed and followed that dude grin Hey and, since everyone changing they name's colors, I want my nick name change it's color too! I want it to be green grin


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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: Error014] #375382
06/25/11 10:47
06/25/11 10:47
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Originally Posted By: Error014
Quote:
You laughed about me and my projects in the past and thats totally okay


Not about you, specifically, but yeah, I'm not a saint.
[...]
Bashing someone because he or she falls short of high expectations, makes mistakes, or thinks too highly of themselves... It all seems like a cheap way to get laughs. It is easy, and you usually don't lose anything doing it. But at the same time, it's not a good move. It's arrogant, and it's pathetic.

I'm guilty of it, and I try to improve that. I'm sure I fall short of that goal.
I'm not proud of the times where, to put it bluntly, I often was an ass. If anyone from back then that I bashed on reads this, my apologies. I went too far. Sorry.


1. Sorry, Error014, could you show me any of those posts where you bashed anyone? Can't imagine that.


2.
Originally Posted By: Error014
I used to post long, elaborate posts about newbie projects that pointed out almost any flaw.

And, it has been always feedback at its best. Detailled precise work that you offered to someone that you never met before.

3.
Originally Posted By: Error014
Quote:
You laughed about me and my projects in the past and thats totally okay


Not about you, specifically, but yeah, I'm not a saint.

Where did anyone laugh about Sid? Can't imagine that.
Any examples?

Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: 3run] #375383
06/25/11 10:47
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OP means original poster, the threadstarter.


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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: Liamissimo] #375392
06/25/11 12:00
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I got it now, thank you laugh


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Re: WILL push A7 to its limit! [Re: 3run] #375397
06/25/11 13:13
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Originally Posted By: 3run
What is OP? grin And this thread is sucks, just one newbie came down and wanted everyone help them in making next doom killer. If they were "pushing" anything to it's limits, I think there were no need to make it so official. They could just push it and publish it, that's all... grin Reading first post makes me laugh again and again, and not only the first post, but how everyone believed and followed that dude grin Hey and, since everyone changing they name's colors, I want my nick name change it's color too! I want it to be green grin
Everyone? How many is "everyone" in Russian? I'm guessing it's much closer to English's "no one" than English's "everyone".

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