It is very interesting how the community discuss finish projects. As long as developers are on the same stage as the majority of the com members... everything is okay.
We discuss shit work in the way of "do a little bit that and then don´t forget this". But as soon as one go over this stage, like finish a project / get a deal... there starts a witch hunting. This could be the reason why guys like oliver2s simply delete their showcases or others like fogman just don´t make some of their commercial work public. Don´t bother. I stoped playing grunts after 2 Minutes, because I don´t like the style... but I don´t know why to fuck spike in this crude way. No, please don´t get me wrong, I still have no identification with spiderman-gothic-cementery boys... it is just interesing how we talk with eachother.