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Re: Mac and Linux (no, really!)
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@sivan: HTML5 + WebGL means a GS browser plugin would not be well-received by players -- people don't want to download a different plugin for every few different games they want to play, and HTML5 means they don't need to. Yes, Unity did it, but that's easily explained -- they beat HTML5 and Flash 11 by being released way earlier.
That request is unrelated to ours, so please start a new thread if you really want to push it.
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Re: Mac and Linux (no, really!)
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Linux is important, because there are not many good engines supporting it. It`s an open source OS with open source software. Therefore usual Linux gamers don`t want to have a "Gears of War" or other common games. Many users are developers and enjoy playing indie and/or hobby games. The market for a tool like Gamestudio is huge. The most successful and highest-rated games on Linux are "Battle of Wesnoth", "OpenTTD", "Quake Live", "Nexuiz", "Super Meat Boy" and "World of Goo". It`s a wonderful playground for indies and hobbyists.
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Re: Mac and Linux (no, really!)
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XBox 360 and PS3 (the latter in particular) are difficult to develop for, have all sorts of licensing restrictions, and are virtually useless unless you have a development PS3 or XBox 360 (those are hard to come by AFAIK). The option is provided by other popular commercial engines -- going in that direction means GS is just playing "catch up". By supporting all major PC operating systems (which Unity doesn't), it's not just exposing us to a 15-20% larger market -- it's exposing us to markets where games are relatively sparse and gamers are plentiful and desperate(/generous). EDIT: Ninja'd by Rondidon, but I think we both have slightly different points, so I'll leave mine as is
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Re: Mac and Linux (no, really!)
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PadMalcom, adult gamers (particularly 20s) are a much much bigger group than 16 and under. Also, 16 and under have less awareness of what's out there (they tend to just see whatever gets advertised on TV) and less control over what they get (they earn less money and/or rely on gifts from parents who found out there's a new FIFA/Madden/NHL/etc). In terms of engine support, you want GS to work on entering a saturated market that most of us won't be able to develop for rather than an under-utilised tech-savvy market who look for what they want instead of getting told what they want by publishers with big marketing bucks? I don't. EDIT: This article is relevant. XBox has huge gamer-share, but its user-base is less indie-friendly. Much less. Linux users, on the other hand, are all about the work of the little guy.
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Re: Mac and Linux (no, really!)
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In terms of engine support, you want GS to work on entering a saturated market that most of us won't be able to develop for rather than an under-utilised tech-savvy market who look for what they want instead of getting told what they want by publishers with big marketing bucks? I don't. An important argument. Porting Gamestudio to consoles is already much too late. A console port wouldn`t be accepted because all of the big players already develop with engines that have 5 years+ of Know-How on console support. Porting Gamestudio to consoles wouldn`t make sense. The Indie console market is much too small for Gamestudio`s audience. The mystery of being successful is to go another way than other companys do. To get a unique characteristic. Getting a strong player in the PC market and serving that marketing niche with high quality software (and Gamestudio is high quality software) can open up new possibilities for Gamestudio`s future. Supporting Windows, Mac and Linux is not only a "cool thing", but also important for marketing. Supporting Windows and (only) Android.. well, that seems to be at least a bit risky to me. I don`t see the "big" marketing potential for Gamestudio on that. There`s a lot of work to be done. I hope that Conitec can manage that all. Hopefully they sell enough Gamestudio copys at the moment.
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