Hello,

Is the executable produced by the Lite-C code as fast as C/C++ code ? If not, is there any performance comparison available ?

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Lite C = "mom's car"

C++ = Mustang GT500

Hello Foxhound,

Thank you for your reply. So what do you suggest for commercial grade games like the "Supercan" - use the engine from C++ or use the engine using Lite-C to create the game ?

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C++ doesnt speed up a game. Huge texturesizes and heavy use of shaders can drop your fps to an slideshow even if the game is coded in Assembler.

>>implying anyone could write better optimized assembler code than the compiler

It does not matter if you use C++ or LiteC if you are not able to code effective source code. You can ultra-slow C++ code, and really fast LiteC code if you do a lot of mistakes.

However - take this tip: "Do not optimize (yet)"

Don't take it personal FoxHound, but comparing two language specifications by speed is so senseless. Saying "just because you use C++, your game is 200% faster", is severely stupid. It depends on the compiler.

And yes, the Lite-C compiler is purely functional - it is not speed optimized. So, if you take one Lite-C function and throw it into a DLL compiled in Visual Studio against the Gamestudio SDK, it will execute most certainly faster.

But imho, most speedups can be easily achieved by identifying general bottlenecks in your game architecture and choosing of datastructures and general algorithms - and are not so related to micro-optimizations performed by the compiler. Plus, if you multithread your game, you can get also a significant boost.

If you are seeking for code-related speed, my advise would be to write your game in Lite-C using the wait(1)-paradigm, using a plugin DLL that utilizes C++ code. Multithread, where possible and use e.g. the standard libraries or Boost or so, if it comes to standardized algorithms and datastructures.

Before I respond back can you make sure you are referencing thing I actually said? This thread was about which was faster not which was better or easier to use or a personal choice. So a car anology works fine when referencing speed.

If you take the whole picture into account and everyone agrees on the boundary conditions, then yes, a car anology could work it out.

well.... c++ has so many compiler options that a executable can be produced
that's faster yes but i do not think that gamestudio compiler will ever give
you that much compiler options ,so looking at it that way i would say yes
c++ rules just because you were talking about "executable produced" and in
my opinion that's a compiler's job we are comparing here.. now for every thing
else speed wise im telling you now mate no ones gonna agree on anything here
,this is much more of a personal preference battle than anything else.

the only way out here would be if you made a test for both ...
then simply choose for yourself!

dont wanna make a fool of myself but gamestudio had to be coded by a language
i would IMAGINE that language was/is c++ ,now just remember c++ is a proffesional
language ! but ,ease of use? thats why we use lite-c ,people dont want to code
a game in lower level language the whole idea is to stick to the higher lever
of coding when it comes to games .. having a comparison that leads one to
start coding in c++ or lite-c for reasons of speed alone i would think
may only complicate things more than it needs to be ,the languages
differ so much in what can be done with each that it remains a personal preference
and seeing that c++ can be used to achieve far more complicated stuff(language wise)
those more complicated stuff may very well be the downfall of a coder when starting
to experience complications in how to use the engine functions properly to
achieve what coder wanted to achieve,in MY opinion simply because of
EASE OF USE i will stick to lite-c (even though i am a c++ guy) what
i experienced in using this engine in c++ is just plain NIGHTMARISH
it wasnt tailored for c++ its HORRIBLE in c++(not c++ itself but the engine coding in c++)

Thank you guys for giving your viewpoints. I guess, I will stick with Lite-C for the time being while I am learning the ins and outs of the 3D Game Studio A8 Engine. After I have mastered all the functions of the engine - then will be the right time to use the engine from C++ .....

Thank you ..... all of you ..... for giving both time and effort to my thread.

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