Rules is rules and it's a poor game designer that doesn't know how to follow rules: The forum clearly states that the Physics Index is for the use of the 3DGS Physics Engine. The Newton Plugin is not the 3DGS physics engine and no matter how good it works or smells or anything, posts concerning it don't belong here and this is by Forum design, not by our whim. If you think this unfair, please note that the same rule would apply to questions from someone using the ODE engine with 3DGS, so don't think we play favorites. I may want to believe that it's the popular vote that counts, but in the end, the rules are rules and George Bush wins...

We are giving solutions; it's just you don't like them. One solution is to post in scripting or general tools. Another is to have your own forum created. Both have advantages and disadvantages but both would permit you to get the Newton message across while not interfering with the 3DGS message. Until Conitec changes the rules on us, we are just following the rules and not making any judgement call by our unwillingness to accept Newton Questions in the forum.

Nobody is saying that Newton is a bad product. Nobody is saying that questions about it and 3DGS don't belong here. What we are saying is there are better places than the 3DGS Physics Forum for it. That's all and that is not an attack on newton. It just belongs in places where they get more exposure to a wider population of users...places where they don't interfere with the natural flow of 3DGS physics information...places that fit the Conitec Forum scheme, nor our own personal schemes.

Re: the continued integration of Newton into A6, it's sad that one persons negative opinion of the plug-in would cause development to stop for that engine. Unless that one person's first intitials where D, J, or M, then that is an awefully petty stance to take and building on Nitro's stance, they then shouldn't be surprised that 3DGS Physics people now take exception to Newton using the 3DGS forums as their own. After all, it's now the 3DGS physics forums that are innundated with with all the questions on how to make this non-supported plug-in work, how to script it, how to make things move under it, why isn't my physics working, etc and all this on a forum dedicated to making the in-house soulution work better, not to make a 3rd party plug in just work!

Can you honestly not see how the 3DGS using, Non-Newton using people on the forums would find this disconcerting and unfair?

And am I being unrealistic in my belief that left unchecked, there will be two newton posts to every one 3DGS PE post? I don't think so...

I think we need to get Conitec to give a clear stance on this issue if I'm in the wrong, but I'm pretty sure that this is an accurate portrayal of the "rules".