I am not sure I am following...sorry for all the questions, but I am grateful for all the help.

So backtracking, I have taking the shadow map demo off from the workshop and the only thing implemented for shadows is I have set it to shadow_stencil = 2; The only thing in this picture casting a shadow is the hair



As you can see the back of the hairs shadows are showing on the face. When I set the CAST flag on the face the issue is not there...so I know it has to do with shadowing.....and the skin fx...Just not sure where to start looking....