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Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439318
03/31/14 13:32
03/31/14 13:32
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All Z systems trade slightly differently due to a random element, f.i. shifting thresholds by a small random value. In most cases this causes a trade to be opened at a different bar, sometimes not at all. There is no error message about that as long as no error is involved.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: jcl] #439330
03/31/14 16:27
03/31/14 16:27
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Ah. Thanks. I knew that there is a difference when a trade will be taken but not that because of that difference a trade sometimes won't be taken. Good to know.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439831
04/10/14 17:06
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I think I'am done with Z12. It nearly reaches a loss of 5000€. This is the maximum DD the backtest gave me. So I think that Z12 is out of date.
What do you think jcl?

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439833
04/10/14 17:31
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Hi Sundance,

have a look at my fxcm z12 demo. It seems remarkably different. Not sure what's goign on there. (note: because of some account messing, only the profit tab is worth viewing, but you should also get the list of trades.

Are you using phantom =1?

Last edited by swingtraderkk; 04/10/14 17:31.
Re: Z12 trade [Re: swingtraderkk] #439837
04/10/14 18:19
04/10/14 18:19
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Hi swing,

these are my setting:

NFA = 0
FXOnly = 0
MMax = 100
Phantom = 0
Comma = 0
Mute = 0
Weekend = 2
Verbose = 2
BrokerPatch = 0
Preload = 0


I really want to know how that can be so different. I now set the risk slider to 0. Till I'am 100% sure everything is okay I won't trade it any further...

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439840
04/10/14 18:38
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I think I know the difference. You have set the FXonly setting I guess!?
On my side I have US30,SPX500 and NAS100 trades which did the most damage.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439842
04/10/14 19:25
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Okay. Don't say anything. Your myfx account named 'SpreadBettingz12FXonly' says it all. I think I'am gonna also set FXOnly to 1.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #439847
04/10/14 19:52
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No the FXCM account is full z12 currently with phantom = 0.

It had been phantom 1 until december, but since then it is phantom = 0.

It also has the default slider settings of 50/10Check if your risk/margin settings are suitable for those instruments, as their min lot sizes can be high, leading to lumpier trade sizes.

To be fair US30, SPX and NAS have been very difficult to trade in that period, they've hit my discretionary trading pretty hard too.

for info the spreadbetting fx only account has phantom =1 from the start.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: swingtraderkk] #439849
04/10/14 20:07
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Okay. Looked at the wrong account. Now I see. It's really a mess. Hope that market is going to behave different in not such a distant future.

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