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Z3 Won't resume open trade #441313
05/19/14 03:30
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Hi Team

I am currently running Zorro 1.22 with MT4 with 3 Z strategies. On the weekend I stopped trading on all strategies in order to train Z12. When I hit trade again Z12 resumed all open trades, as did Z5, however Z3 did not resume the open trade. The trade is open still in MT4, however zorro has not resumed it.

How do I get Zorro to resume this trade?

In addition to this, I have dropped the Zorro EA on 3 different charts in MT4 for different products (EURCHF 1hr, XAGUSD 1d, EURUSD 4hr), and when I hit trade on each Zorro instance, it sometimes connects to the wrong chart window. Is this important? I can eventually get it to connect to the right one, but it seems to be a random thing, as to which chart it connects to.

Thanks

Thirstywolf

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441318
05/19/14 07:59
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Open trades are stored in a ".trd" file in the Log folder. If that file is not there, or if the strategy has changed and is not compatible to its predecessor, the trades can not be resumed. You can see this from the error message at startup.

You must not drop the Zorro EA on more than one chart. I don't know what happens when you do that - probably nothing - but you should literally follow the installation description. The EA must be dropped on a single EUR/USD chart. For trading many MT4 systems, you can run several MT4 instances.

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: jcl] #441350
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JCL, the trd file is there, the strategy has not changed, and there is no error msg it is simple not resuming the trade.

As to the multiple strategies, this is quite a frustrating response to receive from you. There are no instructions in the manual as to how to make use of the multi-session plugin, hence my request in the "zorro future" thread to include some instructions for how to use it. Additionally it is quite unrealistic to have the solution be to use multiple MT4's. That is basically saying that the multi-session plugin is useless for MT4, given the large resources required to run one MT4, let alone several. Each MT4 instance constantly streaming price data for 30 or 40 assets? That is unrealistic.

Can there not be a solution along the lines of creating multiple EA's from the one Zorro install? I.E. having different zorro.mq4 files with different names that can be dropped onto different charts? It makes sense to have multiple instances of zorro running, but not of MT4.

By the way, on dropping the EA on multiple charts, the strategies have been trading as they should and making money.

Thanks

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441361
05/20/14 07:54
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Maybe there is some misunderstanding about multiple sessions? With the multisession plugin you can run as many Zorros as you want with a single MT4 - there are no special instructions for that. Just do it. Only your idea to drop the Zorro EA to all open charts was bad. That's not mentioned in the manual just because we had not heard of that idea before - but it will be surely added.

Multiple MT4s are needed for very special purposes, such as commercial signal providing, but then you're supposed anyway to know what you're doing.

As to the .trd file, can you upload it? I'll look into it.

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: jcl] #441366
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Hi JCL,

OK. Thanks for the clarification. I have emailed the .TRD to the support email, as I am unable to upload this file type to the forum.

Just to clarify then, Is there anyway to use multiple Z strategies via the multi-session pluggin with ONE MT4? If Only one chart can be used, do the multiple time frames pose an issue? I was under the impression that the chart which had the EA on it, had to have the correct timeframe selected....not sure if this was just a figment of my imagination or if it is in the manual somewhere.

Cheers

Thirstywolf

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441367
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Oh my god my sanity is quickly slipping away. I cannot find in the manual any reference to the chart needing to have the same timeframe as the strategy. I can only find

"While Zorro is connected to MT4 in [Trade] mode, do not close the MT4 client window with the attached Zorro EA, and do not reset it to a different asset or time frame. Otherwise Zorro will become disconnected and display a red square next to the server window; it must then be stopped and restarted."

Did I just create this whole issue for myself?

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441368
05/20/14 10:25
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The time frame of the chart does not matter. The asset matters insofar as it should be EURUSD when you trade multiple assets. The reason is that the EA can automatically detect the MT4 asset naming convention when dropped to a EURUSD window.

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: jcl] #441370
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Yep.....I really just did that to myself.

OK. Thanks JCL, and I apologise for severely over complicating things. My screw-up in getting things too twisted around. So I will get all strategies onto the one Chart and see if that fixes my issues.

Thanks.

Thirstywolf

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441422
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Just in case anyone else encounters the same issues with trades not resuming, I will share my theory for why Z3 did not resume trades on my system. As I am running zorro on a VPS it can ocassionally get a bit laggy. I believe when I stopped the strategy, I accidently restarted, as it started loading again, which I then cancelled. The .TRD file as I now understand it is session based, so my theory is that potentially a new .TRD file was created before the old trades were loaded and saved to the new .TRD, and thus the next time I restarted the system it was referencing a blank .TRD file. This would not be a problem, as a backup .TRD file is created, except that I cancelled startup twice....Which leaves me with an orphan trade. I am not sure if there is a way to edit the .TRD file, but in anycase, this is what I believe has happened.

Thanks.

Re: Z3 Won't resume open trade [Re: Thirstywolf] #441426
05/22/14 14:51
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Thanks for the info! This would be in fact a bug - you should be able to repeated click the [Stop] button at start without creating an empty TRD file. I'll forward this to the developers. If this can happen, it will be fixed in the next update.


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