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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: Emre]
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03/26/21 03:07
03/26/21 03:07
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NeoDumont
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Hi Emre !
Very nice scenario, done very very well. However I let it run on a 3GHZ Dual Core with a 512 MB Geforce 9600 3GB RAM and my framerate is about 5-8 frames per second in 600x800 resolution. Nearly unplayable. Nothing to critizise, just to let you know. This led to a very interesting problem I encountered in other old games and I think developers should be aware of. When reaching the landing stage at the frozen lake I got stuck, unable to move anymore. I think this is because of the the scripted movement is not fast enough for the 3D rendering or vs. I saw this problem also when I tried to play elder Games on fast machines, there was some kind of desynchronisation between movement, sound or else. Anyway, just maybe this is something of interest for someone.
The trees and weed of hexnex world do not behave correctly in any way on my PC. They scale up and down in yxz space and the weed looks like jumping around.
The tree trunks also are becoming thicker and thinner continuously. Fault of my Graphics Card ? Wrong Driver ? Wrong Shader ?. Maybe this is of interst for you. Skyrim and Halflife2 are runninng perfectly on the same machine.
Also, for those who are waiting for an A9 Update to think about (just reflecting my personal opinion):
1. OPgroup already lowered the price for the pro engine to less than 10%of the original price some time ago. Shaders.
2. I dont want to be the programmer going into the A8 Engine to update it. Thats very hard a Job. After this long time the engine not being updated, who wants to dig in thousands of of lines of code to generate an update for whatsoever machines. In Germany many guys are not using PCs anymore at home but turn to Laptops because the cost for electricity became the highest in Europe. I see that people sell their "Gaming PCs" and other 400 Watt Machines on EBAY kleinanzeigen very often, anouncing that the are going to use a Laptop in the future. But Laptops have very special and tricky GPUs as we all know. I think Corona also puts pressure on the famile budget.
3. A A9 Engine update must pay for Opgroup. It makes no sense (for any company) to invest in a new version of Gamestudio if it sells only to a handfull of people. Try to understand.
4. I still believe that the A8 Engine is a game engine (and it IS (!) running very stable on a lot of different machines) you can make a nice game if you have the manpower and patience to create a Game with a GOOD STORY (!). Essential for someting new immersive and fascinating.
5 The A8 engine is there as it is. Why not simply use it for some nice virtual worlds or Games. I also do not believe in Games becoming better because of high end equipment. Have a look at NOLF 1+2 or MAFIA
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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: Emre]
#482763
03/26/21 04:23
03/26/21 04:23
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Posts: 620 Turkey, Izmir
Emre
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Hi NeoDumont. Thank you very much for informative response! As I mentioned on the start screen, the game requires a minimum of RX 580 or Nvidia equivalent. I did not do optimization work for low systems, because i don't have time for it. Also, this isn't a serious project, it's something i do just for fun. The main goal in this project is not to criticize the opgroup or denigrate the engine. On the contrary, i always made demos to show the quality of the engine like this or this. This project is also one of them. I just wanted to add some interaction and fun into it. In the past, we wanted the A9 to come out. That's normal because most of us learned how to make games thanks to this engine. We love it. But I don't think anyone is waiting for the A9 anymore. If I have time i will make a more comprehensive version (unlikely though) and maybe there will be other participants as well. Then i can try to make it work stable on other computers. You seem to have taken it very seriously. I hope jcl did not take it as seriously as you. I had no intention of offending anyone. Meanwhile, most of us are on discord. If you haven't joined it yet, we'll also welcome you. https://discord.gg/x4vRYpJ38Y
Last edited by Emre; 03/26/21 04:52. Reason: editing about optimization issue.
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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: NeoDumont]
#482775
03/27/21 20:30
03/27/21 20:30
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The A8 engine is there as it is. Why not simply use it for some nice virtual worlds or Games. That's what Emre did, too sad that you didn't get the plot of this project. Everyone from discord channel who had a chance to play this little game - enjoyed it (including me). Not only from the visual appearence (awesome atmosphere it delivers), but from the story, irony and humor wise too. And even if someone was here to complain about a9 not comming out, you aren't the one to judge, since jcl himself is perfectly fine with such fan made projects. Infact any project that makes it out to executable with this oldass engine should be appreciated and respected, since it take a lot of time and effort to get it up and running. And only those who trully love it, dispite all it's bugs, outdated or missing features are still using it to this day (including me).
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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: NeoDumont]
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03/27/21 21:58
03/27/21 21:58
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Posts: 620 Turkey, Izmir
Emre
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@ Emre
No, I don't take your scenario as too offensive. It's allright from a certain point of view. However mine is a little different, maybe I publish it later here.
Actually, I am not curious about your point. I found your approach offensive. I thought maybe you would change it but clearly i was wrong. 3run made a nice statement for you and now you are acting aggressively towards him. I don't know what is your problem but i hope you get better. Best wishes for you too. Have a nice day to you with your xp. @3run: Thank you man.
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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: Emre]
#482781
03/27/21 23:26
03/27/21 23:26
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Joined: May 2013
Posts: 175 Hamburg, Germany
NeoDumont
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@Emre
Just 'v been on 3run's (what is the meaning of this ?) homepage. Man so alive that page. Posts from 2010. No Impressum, no "last updateted" for his page. That's what the Digital Revolution 2.0 makes so exiting. I hope he did not drink too much blood from some bodies he shouldnt (Remark: this is just a joke (!) :-)). TM: Made in Kaukasus).
I think you know that the scenario you've published has infact at least some offensive contents against GSTUDIO/Opgroup or users or could be missunderstood. However it is done very very well. I STICK TO THAT !
Conitec is not the company responsible for GS anymore, if I'm informed correctly.
" What can we do to help you for a A9 Version ?" "MAKE GOOD GAMES !" JCL.
Now, Emre you invested a lot of time to create the snow lake scenario, with support from many other people. I think you expected users to have a graphics card with 8 GB VRAM and a GPU getting as hot so you could cook an egg on it (Remark: This is a joke ! TM: Made in "Save the Planet" movement.)
"We are at discord now". Why, and not here ? Is it all about "us" ?
Anyway how offensive this discussion may get: Your scenario is really very nice und I enjoyed the birds singing very much (where did you capture these nice sounds?). Also great design of the car !
The jeep, including steering worked fine, even on my "Old Computer" :-)).
Going to get a 1200 Watt gaming PC the next days and then give a damn shit on the future of our children. (REMARK: This was a joke, in the spirit of Monty Pthon TM: Made in England):-))))))))) Or was it a joke too bitter ?
Emre, yes, I have a problem, and you too !
Best whishes, will stick to Gamestudio whatever happens. A others will too or not :-))
NeoDumont
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Re: Hecknex World
[Re: Emre]
#482788
03/29/21 13:43
03/29/21 13:43
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Posts: 2,113 NRW/Germany
alibaba
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You guys need to chill 😄 There already isn't much going on here, don't let the only activity here be hate. I suppose there is a misunderstanding on both sides, let's just accept that.
Nontheless, great work Emre, I enjoyed the little trip 😊
Last edited by alibaba; 03/29/21 13:44.
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