OT: but time for another one of my wierd ideas (am on a break at work ). Can one of those 'grass around player' scripts be modified so that you can have 'stars around player?' Meaning some small textures with stars, with alpha (and maybe a mtl effect) so when player looks up there are some better defined stars close by him; along with the usual skycube with some dim stars this might provide a better looking night sky.