Well, I got rid of ph_poly completely out of my script, thanks for the heads but, but it still seems to do it. What its doing is actully when the front wheels and the body turn the back wheels stay implaced, and dont follow the vehicle, so if the car turned there still facing "straight" its like they grab to much and dont want to turn as fast as the rest of the car? wierd, any pointers?

Heres kinda a crude 10 second picture of what I think its doing.



Once I stop and wait a second or so, they go back to parallel with the body.