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by VoroneTZ. 10/14/25 05:04
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Re: Great idea !
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12/20/05 08:58
12/20/05 08:58
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DosBox works with PCI sound cards? So Games which require set sound/set blaster can actually use the soundcard?
I didn't know that - if it works, that would be cool.
yep it does indeed. i played a lot of old adventures with it (Discworld 1 for example or Lighthouse)
Just try it out :> you only need to knoiw how to mount the cdrom and this stuff, but theres a good readme.
and then you can start the setup of the game with the dosbox, choose a soundblaster driver, and then you have sound and music 
sometimes the games are just a bit too slow (like Lighthouse) so its not always perfect, but works most of the time :>
i also installed A3 once, but couldnt make it to run, i didnt understand how to o_O i had to create the level filesover the dos somehow..
but i would love to try A4 XD and animate models via sprites i like this old style with 3d worlds and 2d people ^^
Last edited by DS_Kihaku; 12/20/05 08:59.
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Re: Great idea !
[Re: Captain_Kiyaku]
#60614
12/21/05 02:12
12/21/05 02:12
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TeutonicDarkness
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Anybody ever unravel the mystery of how to use A3? I tried it with DosBox and similar progs myself with no luck. I get to the prompt enter the start.bat and it does nothing. I really think it might be because my hardware and maybe even possibly because its a 64bit system instead of 32  but who knows? *** Teutonic Darkness ***
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Re: Great idea !
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12/27/05 19:33
12/27/05 19:33
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hmmm
I thought exactly the same... You are a big fan of A5, probably even the biggest fan of A5 out on the forums, but you are running a 64bit system? Lol  , I find that very amusing !! No hard feelings, it's meant positive,
Cheers
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Re: Great idea !
[Re: PHeMoX]
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12/27/05 23:00
12/27/05 23:00
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hmmm
I thought exactly the same... You are a big fan of A5, probably even the biggest fan of A5 out on the forums, but you are running a 64bit system? Lol , I find that very amusing !! No hard feelings, it's meant positive,
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probably even the biggest fan of A5 out on the forums
Cool did I win a contest or something? LOL
Yes.. Just because I can use something.
I don't like assuming that possible customers...
could use it as well.
I have 2 Computers here 1 will run A6 Very, very well.
my other cannot handle it at all.
Being from a rather poor family you have appreciation for
things like this.
Often when growing up I would want to get a game to play
but very often ran into similar problems with
compatability.
There are a lot of people out there that would love to play
games and such but in reality can't afford a $120. Video Card.
So I will probally allways prefer A5 untill A6 offers
downgradeable compatability.
*** Teutonic Darkness ***
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Re: Great idea !
[Re: TeutonicDarkness]
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12/28/05 23:46
12/28/05 23:46
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Off course I understand why you are such a fan of A5, I don't own two licenses, so I'm not really allowed to use A5 anymore, but I clearly see A5's advantages over A6 on slower machines, eventhen I don't even run A6 on a ultra fast computer myself and you just happen to be the owner of a presumably fast 64bit system...
I've got more than 1 pc, but I'm building my games on my target system, so I'm not developing it on my highest spec gaming pc, I know this is just some luxury I have, but it doesn't change anything as I would be developing my games on the lower spec pc anyways...
It's very good to not forget the people who own lower quality hardware or just older hardware, but considering the current minimal specs needed to be able to run A6, these specific people will most probably be a smaller and smaller becomming minority and by the time my game(s) 'hits the shelves' who knows how much people with old hardware are left...
People with a pc older than let's say when Geforce 4 became the 'standard gfx' card, will have to upgrade anyway when they wish to play any modern day game, let alone for being able to run Windows XP properly.
Fair enough, I know lots of people who still play Wolfenstein, Doom II, or Starcraft or even Dungeon Keeper II or whatever old game, but already 75% of them plays it on fairly new hardware, definately above or very close to the minimum specs required for 3dgs A6.
What does your target system look like? Second hand computers come really cheap, you can buy a pentium 3 933 mhz + geforce 4 or even with a better card for under 250$ , when buying the old pc from friends you could even get it for practically free (infact I've given away my old pentium 4 2ghz pc to a friend of mine just a few months ago). When your budget is lower than say 200$ to buy a complete pc, then the question rises if you can afford a pc at all, off course a solution would be saving some money monthly so you will be able to spent more money, but just not today...
Let's just say people could save up to 400$, then I don't really see why people couldn't afford a pc good enough for running A6 games. The difference in hardware requirements between A5 and A6 lies mainly in the area of the graphics card anyways, and 1 Ghz processors should be enough and are already amazingly cheap.
Maybe I've made it sound too easy, maybe you think that I don't know what being poor really means, maybe 'saving money' whilst being poor seems impossible, but I do fiercely believe one thing; when there's a power of will, anything can be accomplished...
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Re: Great idea !
[Re: PHeMoX]
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12/29/05 00:31
12/29/05 00:31
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Yes, you offer many good points. However what if I released a Demo or trial version? The Lower Ended Pc's couldn't even try it without upgrading. It just dosn't seem right to ask someone to upgrade/Spend money just to "try" my product. * On another note there are a lot of others things I have taken into consideration. Not only will my Finished Game run on OLD Computers but it will Also run on other Operating Systems.* I have tested and comfired my Demo could be run on many other non-windows Operating Systems. A6 has a serious problem with that because of its hardware/directx dependencies. See I'm not just focusing on old hardware/past but also alternative OS/Future!  *** Teutonic Darkness ***
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