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A5 5.240 still available? #64621
02/19/06 00:30
02/19/06 00:30
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PlayStefan Offline OP
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Hi, I´m new here and I have a question to 3D Game Studio 5. I search an update for my 3D GameStudio 5 Extra. I would like to update to Version 5.240 but I don´t know where I could find this Update (sure I have searched for it, but wasn´t successful) so could someone tell me, where I could find this update, does it still exists online? Please help me, if you can.
(Sorry for my strange english, I´m a stupid german, hope you understand my problem)


in german/auf deutsch:
======================
Hallo, ich bin neu hier und ich habe eine Frage zum 3D GameStudio 5. Ich suche ein Update für mein 3D GameStudio 5 Extra. Ich würde gerne auf Version 5.240 updaten aber ich weiß nicht, wo ich diese Update finden soll (natürlich habe ich bereits danach gesucht, aber erfolglos) nun könnte mir jemand sagen, wo ich diese Update finden könnte, existiert es im Netz überhaupt noch? Bitte helft mir, wenn ihr könnt.

Last edited by BiG_F; 02/19/06 20:30.

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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: PlayStefan] #64622
02/21/06 07:15
02/21/06 07:15
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Although it isn't on the downloads page, I glanced at the paths and file names for clues. Try these URLs:

http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext52.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext24.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5e/updext24.exe

You will need your A5 username and password though. They might not be available at all, but they could still be on the server.

Why don't you want 5.51, the latest version for A5?


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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: ulillillia] #64623
02/21/06 07:47
02/21/06 07:47

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3D GameStudio version up to 5.24 includes a software renderer which every Windows computer can support. The ones who have a DirectX 7- capable video card (note that I use 7- as video cards that came out during the late 1990s (in other words, ATI Rage Pro is a DirectX 3-capable video card, while Rage Pro 128 is a DirectX 5-capable (or is it 6) video card. However, they may have already got the latest version of DirectX (Windows 95 supports it up to DirectX 8.0a) or in case of Windows 98 or later, DirectX 9.0 (however, not everyone updated their version to 9.0c).

So there are developers who want to target customers who don't have a very high income, unemployed, or if they're doing a project in school which those including families with very low income or who are unemployed, may have got their computers with Windows 95 and don't plan to upgrade their computers to Windows XP.

Thus, developers will have to use a software renderer for those listed above.

Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: ulillillia] #64624
02/21/06 11:27
02/21/06 11:27
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PlayStefan Offline OP
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Quote:

Although it isn't on the downloads page, I glanced at the paths and file names for clues. Try these URLs:

http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext52.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext24.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5e/updext24.exe

You will need your A5 username and password though. They might not be available at all, but they could still be on the server.

Why don't you want 5.51, the latest version for A5?




At first, thank you for the links. Unfortunatelly, they don´t work at all. And yes, like Grayson Peddie said, I would like to have the software renderer from version 5.240, so please if anybody know where I can find the update, please let me know.

(Sorry for my strange english, I´m a stupid german, hope you understand my problem)


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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: PlayStefan] #64625
02/21/06 20:39
02/21/06 20:39
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Quote:

Quote:

Although it isn't on the downloads page, I glanced at the paths and file names for clues. Try these URLs:

http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext52.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5/updext24.exe
http://server.conitec.net/gsa5e/updext24.exe

You will need your A5 username and password though. They might not be available at all, but they could still be on the server.

Why don't you want 5.51, the latest version for A5?




At first, thank you for the links. Unfortunatelly, they don´t work at all. And yes, like Grayson Peddie said, I would like to have the software renderer from version 5.240, so please if anybody know where I can find the update, please let me know.

(Sorry for my strange english, I´m a stupid german, hope you understand my problem)




The closest thing I know of is A downgrade to A5.24
sometime in the Next 1-2 years for A6 owners!

Here is the Article:

http://www.coniserver.net/ubbthreads/sho...true#Post520867


Though I wouldn't rush out and buy A6 just to be able to downgrade to
this

I have Been waiting quite a while myself for 5.24 to
become publiccaly available again.

Although here is a quote from JCL that
might look good for A5 Software Rendering Fans

Quote:

Yes, we still plan to release an A5 version once the 6.4 update is finished and released.





Hope the get through with all that A6 stuff
I can Hardly wait.






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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: TeutonicDarkness] #64626
02/21/06 21:35
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PlayStefan Offline OP
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Ok, seems as if I (we) have to wait for it. But, if there is someone out there, who has this update anayway, please let me know. Probably this one could post it in the forum, if it is allowed, but I don´t know if it is... probably not... I don´t want to buy Version 6 (a NEW Version of 3DGS) and then downgrade to 5 (and OLD Version). Sure, it is a nice idea, so every A6 user could switch back, if he likes to, but in my opinion it is weird solution. Or does Microsoft offer Downgrades from WinXP to 98 or 95? I think you know what I mean...

(Sorry for my strange english, I´m a stupid german, hope you understand my problem)


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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: PlayStefan] #64627
02/22/06 00:59
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Quote:

Ok, seems as if I (we) have to wait for it. But, if there is someone out there, who has this update anayway, please let me know. Probably this one could post it in the forum, if it is allowed, but I don´t know if it is... probably not... I don´t want to buy Version 6 (a NEW Version of 3DGS) and then downgrade to 5 (and OLD Version). Sure, it is a nice idea, so every A6 user could switch back, if he likes to, but in my opinion it is weird solution. Or does Microsoft offer Downgrades from WinXP to 98 or 95? I think you know what I mean...

(Sorry for my strange english, I´m a stupid german, hope you understand my problem)





Quote:

But, if there is someone out there, who has this update anayway



Afraid thats not legal for another user to do so without specific
prmission from Conitec

You see Each update is Specific to "Each user". You get a update
or downdgrade and new Engine with your Name and info "locked IN"
This Is why Nobody is Voluntarily handing out update...
Beacuse it tracks right back to them.
And if by some odd change somebody turns out to
be a warez user guess who gets the finger pointing at them!

Quote:

I don´t want to buy Version 6 (a NEW Version of 3DGS) and then downgrade to 5 (and OLD Version).




Well I didn't Even want A6 at all but They refused to sell
me what I wanted.

But since then I have decided I want both
( Even if I have to pay for both!)
Not that I like A6 in the slightest bit...
mostly to convert A6 code,, and .MDL7 back to A5.
After All why Should I switch back completely without support
after all Conitec Isn't Exactly going to convert the
Syntax back to A5 for me... or even better convert all
those Excessively oversized .MDL7 back to .mdl4's for
me.

Yes Their policy on Older Versions is Absurd!




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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: TeutonicDarkness] #64628
02/22/06 18:04
02/22/06 18:04
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PlayStefan Offline OP
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Ok, seems as if it is impossible to get A5.240 , then I will continue using A5.05, which I have. Of course, I tried A5.51/5.52 but as I mentioned there is no Software Renderer and I really would like to have one... I know A5.05 is very slow in comparison to A5.51/5.52 but it still has the Renderer and I´m comfortable with that version.

So the last thing I can do...
Conitec or someone from Conitec... if you read that post, please, if possible - means if the update still exists on a server - could you probably reoffer the update A5.240 Extra (like you reoffer A5.52 here in the forum), that would be very nice and I think I´m not the only one, who would be happy about that

Last edited by BiG_F; 02/22/06 22:23.

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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: PlayStefan] #64629
04/21/06 19:52
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PlayStefan Offline OP
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Hello, is there nobody from Conitec who read the post above?
I would be happy if you could tell me if there is no opportunity to reoffer the update, so I don't have to wait any longer for it.
Please just give me (us) a short answer, if you've just read the post because it would be better to say: "No, the update doesn't exist" than let us wait any longer.


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Re: A5 5.240 still available? [Re: PlayStefan] #64630
04/22/06 00:55
04/22/06 00:55
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The reason there not offering it untill A6 version 6.4 is released
is Quite simple

They are Hoping:

A.) Everyone Who has A6 upgrades to the New Version and
is so impressed they forget about A5 alltogether.

B.) Everyone who still owns A5 only upgrades and
Spends more money
And is so impressed they are no longer interested in A5


Myself I choose option

C.) I have both A5 and A6 ( for compatability and preference)
Also I use A6 to convert models back to A5.

And I keep being a Nusiance on the Forum until
someone from Conitec finally gives in...

And says... okay, okay, okay....

Well provide Version 5.24 Software Rendering once Again
to stop All the A5 fans from pestering us


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