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Evolution makes things like rape, and doing whatever you feel like, sound ok



nonsense.. this doesnt follow in the slightest. Consciousness--while evolutionarily emergent, allows humans and higher animals to make choices. This leads to question of morality in general.

Morality is obviously derived from early tribal behavior in which poeple in a small to mid-sized social group needed rules of conduct. Similar rules of conduct are visble in great ape social groups as well. The fact is moral codes are advantageous for a society.

Why these things are difficult for some religious poeple to understand is unclear, but may involve a sort of binary mentality where all things must be absolute and certain. To them morality must be *prescribed*, where in general a secular observer would prefer to *describe* morals. That is to say, the morals of a society should be observed for themselves as they are in reality, not how any given individual wants them to be.

This of course creates a problem for moral absolutists, who cant accpet that practics they find abhorent may have been perfectly acceptable in other cultures. Pederasty in ancient Greece was a normal part of life for many poeple (particularly upper class or warrior classes). Regardless of how WE view that behavior, it was viewed in a fundamentally different way by THEM.

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