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I think you're the one who misunderstood something. Order has a lot to do with organized complexity, but has little to do with a higher or lower "energy state". Chemical reactions, no matter whether they organzie molecules into a state of higher complexity or not, normally end up with lower energy. For instance, the H2O molecule (water) has higher order than separate H and O atoms, but lower energy.




Yes, that's the difference. Crystals are able to crystallize because its a lower energy state. It just 'settles' that way. Abiogenesis requires the exact opposite to happen....somehow. Organic molecules don't just go against their nature and seperate themselves, and then hold themselves together once they've formed the highly unstable chains....somehow, and then they don't just form into the complex structures required to attain even the simplest cell. You're asking us to believe an event that go against the laws of nature.

You missed my point about the rebuttle to Matt's argument. If it was as simple as a broth of amino acids, then the problem would have been solved a long time ago. I think you'll agree, no problem in science is simple.

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As long as you're the only one who has seen those two miraculous sources, this is maybe an "argument from vision"?




I'll dig 'em up, but I'm going to try and get them from a source you can't question whatsoever.

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