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Confused and need Help #80643
07/07/06 22:29
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Ok. Recently, I've been working fairly hard to get the knowledge of MED. Its been about two months, and I've finally gotten to understand designing models from scratch, rigging, and texturing models in MED; must say, I'm fairly proud of that.

My problem now, is getting an engine started. I've had 3DGS for a long time now, but I've never actually built a game engine with it; I always used it to build banners.

My intent right now, is the basics
-3rd person camera
-Standing
-Walking
-Running
-Variable Jumping
-With explanation of how to incorporate the model and animations (make the models animation change from walking to running to jumping, etc basically corospond with the movements:
if hes walking, change the animation to walk, if he runs or jumps, change the animation to running or jumping)

I don't know how to do it though. I've looked over the things that came with 3DGS but it just didn't help me at all.
What I'm trying to accomplish is this:

Its a mockup I made, but the game itself would run a 3rd person camera. (..please dont pay attention to that backdrop, I just didnt want to import the modelled background)

This is what I want to try and get the camera to be like

A fair distance, shows surroundings, and the character in play.

I'm wondering if anyone can point me to tutorials that would assist the things I need, if I can get the walking, running, jumping; then I can experiment with them, and experiment with how the model reacts.
If I can get those bare essentials, I feel I'd be able to add more to the engine myself, after understanding these.

I would really appriciate a tutorial that could explain the things I need, because 3DGS didnt come with any documentation for help. =/

Any help is appriciated.

Last edited by Krammit; 07/08/06 05:11.
Re: Confused and need Help [Re: Krammit] #80644
07/08/06 08:54
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hiya.

You can get the help files, etc., on the main Conitec Download page. ( http://www.3dgamestudio.com/ ).


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Re: Confused and need Help [Re: Paul_L_Ming] #80645
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Ah, great.
Unfortunatly, somehow I missed that documentation.

But, with one problem solved, a new one is always bound to arise; the movements for the biped01 are WASD and the spacebar and the mouse. Normally, I wouldnt have a problem with this; in this case, I do.

Basically, I'm used to using the arrow keys. UP/Down for forward/backwards and left/right to turn.
The commands in the biped however, call for madly rolling the mouse to turn, and fiddling with WASD and somehow hitting space to jump while doing all this. ..annoying.

I've gone through its script, but I havent noticed the commands to replace the mouse with the arrow keys, and forward/backward movements with the arrow keys.
Anyone know what segment the commands are located in?
Generally, I want to have the character turn with the left/right arrow keys, and move with the up/down arrow keys.
I just cant find where to do that right yet. >_>

Re: Confused and need Help [Re: Krammit] #80646
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Look for key_w, key_a, ..., key_cuu, key_cud, key_cul, and key_cur through the find command in SED for anything related to it. I never used or really even seen the various scripts so I don't know. Normally, in the games I play, using the left arrow key turns you left (increase pan), the right arrow key to turn right (decrease pan), the up arrow key to accelerate and move forward and the down arrow key to move backwards. I've never played a game that used WASD (and the latest PC game I've played is Midtown Madness 2, a rather old racing game).


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Re: Confused and need Help [Re: ulillillia] #80647
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Oddly enough, there isnt anything in the file that uses "key_w" or the rest, infact, 'crtl+f' finds nothing every containing "_w"
-I searched in the biped c-script; assuming since the biped is the character movements, the controls would be there to. ..Correct? o_O

I've never played a game with WASD either, I know there are some FPS's that use it as default, like Delta Force 2, but no modern games use it, and this version of WASD is just, well, dumb. Its highly aggrivating that you need to frantikly move your mouse around, to achieve a 10 degree turn.

But nothing was found for the controls


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