well as far as multitexturing goes, i dont have a problem using a shader, but what they really need to do is get that convex lightmapping support done so that the shadows will look a lot better.

Mike :
Agree totally with you.

Even better Torque also lightmaps building and others things on the terrain
and terrain also influence shadows on buildings, and the lightmapping is fast
as hell, it does that from ages.


Even lone wolf devs achieve real good terrain editors and from ages they do that

custom terrain editor

texture painting


the 3DGS team (one or two guys) is really too small or not fast at all
(i bet ) if they can't take account of that !

Terrain should be added from ages , before octree ,shaders and some others incoming things.

Years ago shader availability have been delivered to us , it would have been better to deliver a real terrain editor in WED !

my bad talking , but when you use others 3D packages and come back to the easy
cool 3DGS , somethings are really really irritating and bad

Hi!

It is not the modelling or creating the terrain that is a problem in 3DGS, but the management of the texture, for create a terrains could be used any program from smallest up to biggest, but the more important thing is the texture and the shadows!, the texture should be seen more detailed, I don't say that I want see the ants that they walk in the grass, but to can distinguish a stone in the grass from a colored stain, or the grass self ! more detail in the textures please...


greet


salva

I have recently started using the standard mulittexturing material for terrains and I have to say you CAN see way more detail than you seem to claim Salva:



One thing I do wonder is how I can actually have three different textures (example: road, grass, rock) using the rgb system. Should I just sacrifice the blue shadowlayer for another texturelayer seeing as I anyway can't get that shadowlayer to work?

Hi!
I know this shader, it is exactly that what I have told before, three texture is too few! could you use one for the grass, one for the roads, one for the stones ok, and if you want also marshy zones and a wood with dries leaves on the terrain, or near to a river stones with sand, or rocky zones, or the ground of a small country, with sandstreets and stones together what do you do?



salva

you make your own shader

As I told: You can easily create such a shader with SMEE2. This is a fixed function shader and will even run on very old systems.

But beware: A shader with 6 textures and shadowmap uses 7 rendering passes with 6 tilable textures and several blending textures. This uses much ressources and FPS. Better you create levels for forest, winter, beach and so on.

Gamestudio is not Gamebryo (the Oblivion engine) and even in Gamebryo there is no standard terrain. The terrain system from Bethesda is hand made (I once evaluated Gamebryo).

And I think even in Oblivion a standard cell is restricted to a certain amount of textures. You will probably not find a beach texture in the ice region of the game. They simply load a new cell with new textures when you come to a new region. But they have dynamic loading and so it is no problem.

Hi!

Here what I mean..






salva

Maybe you don't listen.

Use a shader or a detail texture. Do it or leave it.

i downloaded that terrain editor but when i run it it says "MFC71.DLL was not found" and closes down. wats up w/ that?