I did in fact work with Gen3d for a long time, still tinker around in reality factory a bit when I get really bored. If anyone is interested in looking at demos made by genesis3d just lemme know. They are ok but not as good as ones I have done using 3dgs. After I tried A5 I figured out quick it was the way to go for me. Anyway, its good to see a few faces here that have come over from Gen3d and I have even seen a couple dark basic converts ;-) Looks like A5 is winning them all.

Good luck with all ur games and may ur programming be swift and bugless [Eek!]

Kinji

kinji3dgs@yahoo.com