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Game studio Edition #413472
12/14/12 13:10
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I know most of us, end up developping nothing.
Like start a project, but somehow never end it.

Would it be nice, to have a version of game studio, that is everything like PRO, which included the full features, but in the end, no time trials, but that cannot publish...? So that if one want to publish it, would pay a per publish fee to COnitec guys , that would then give a link with the compiled exe.

DEMOS, and TRIALS; can't show the potencial of the Engine. And sometimes, it takes longer to develop and we really need that feature thats its only in PRO version.


I think that would decrease the warez distribution of this engine.


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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: MMike] #413473
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I just for curiosity openned the 3dgs in debug mode, and i can see the checkpoints that test for a PRO version. Which means, in 5 days i have a crack done... fully PRo of the last public version.


Everything is code right? if the computer can open it, then its possible to crack ir.. Everything then its a matter of interpretation of the code and modification.

Anyway they should have a hacker team to see how long they take to crack it, and then report, workarounds to develop a better protection system.

PS: im not distributing the crack, dont worry, if i do it, its just educational reasons...

And Dont ever get cracks on the net, they might come with all kind of things inside...

If i would need to crack, i would do it my own, and clean.


But HEy,Dont look at me like a criminal, as a programmer, thats what i do.. change code, build code, acomplish a goal.. im not selling and distributing ever this thing.

AND DONT private MSG to ask me for, i will report it! (Only if you pay me a million LOLOL, but that way would be silly since you could buy the pro then? HAHA)

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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: MMike] #413479
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as I heard there are not so numerous warez versions available and they are not stable.

but I also wanted to ask whether a change in edition categories or pricing can be expected in future or not, taking into account the actual offer of other game engines.


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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: sivan] #413482
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It is with software as with many other goods: the price is more likely to go up than down. People who paid the full price for the Pro Edition would not appreciate if we reduced the price or offered special versions.

Gamestudio is rather crack-proof, that's why you don't find any working warez versions. All the versions sold on warez websites are either old A7 beta versions, or just the same trial version that's here available for free.

Re: Game studio Edition [Re: jcl] #413487
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Originally Posted By: jcl
It is with software as with many other goods: the price is more likely to go up than down. People who paid the full price for the Pro Edition would not appreciate if we reduced the price or offered special versions.

Gamestudio is rather crack-proof, that's why you don't find any working warez versions. All the versions sold on warez websites are either old A7 beta versions, or just the same trial version that's here available for free.


I dont want to sound rude, but Cracking GS isnt that hard as you think. You should pack your files with a good packer like vmprotect. Also I found the algorithm to unpack protected resource files...
Thats no problem, I didnt find cracks either on the internet.

Re: Game studio Edition [Re: jcl] #413490
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Jcl, i cracked the last A8 trial version... Dont know if itrs full PRO or not. And JCl why you say its crack proof?
But i found some weird stuff like Instructor version? Team , Magazine, what are those?


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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: MMike] #413491
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NOTICE:
Everything i want to say at the moment is that principal reason that i come up with about all this, isthat the human being, always tryes to find solutions for their problems. Its what makes us alive in some way.

In this case, i wanted to test the augmented thing, i cracked the program to make the augment work, that was my goal, dont know if the engine has faults or not, the logo was gone, and many pro function works.
I know the crack probably does interfer in some functions, but i dont know which, since i dont test it fully, most sample demos work fine, except for the eax demo. That returns an error message.

The goal is not to distribute this crack. I just did it in inofensive way, and prove that it can be done to some level. Although compilation to EXE in not possible at the moment.


But the thing is that,If we were designers, probably the skills to crack would not be present among us. But since we are developers and programmers, we must take into account that some of us, can do crack, and its all a matter of interest and after all curiosity.

Of course i could give some hints, in how to protect more the engine from cracking, since i toutched the very heart of the code, steps that blocks and unlocks features.

In the end, i suggest the pay per publish fee as a solution for the cracks, that would be nice i think... Since the thing that motivated me to crack the program, was having a DEMO version on not a fully featured trial test. Which would't Allow me to explore if eventually it was a good price for the engine or simply worth it.

I havent touched My A7 A long time, since i moved to other software, but im happy to see the Physx PLugin and alot of improvemnts.
I very recommend although this engine, for everyone that wants to start developing. And the price, i think its what it is, i think cryteck is much more expensive.

Stay Cool! guys



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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: MMike] #413522
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Originally Posted By: MMike
Jcl, i cracked the last A8 trial version... Dont know if itrs full PRO or not. And JCl why you say its crack proof?
But i found some weird stuff like Instructor version? Team , Magazine, what are those?


u cant crack a8 but a7 yes

Re: Game studio Edition [Re: Dico] #413525
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What? you can't crack ? Why not?

Well i dont know you define crack.
I just cracked it, the last A8, now , yeah, its not a fully cracked version because it cannot compile an EXE at the moment. (Havent find the procedure responsable for that) but because im not really interested too do a working one, i just was interested in testing the augment plugin, and it did work.

Now, i could try to crack the whole thing , if i was about to recieve the PRIZE, which i doubt. So , i wont even spend any time on that issue. I got what i wanted.



But tell me a script that would only work under A8 PRO, to test if the thing i have its PRO or not. Because for far all the functionalities in PRO work.. The logo position or removal for example, .. But really dont know how to compare. :S

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Re: Game studio Edition [Re: jcl] #413526
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Originally Posted By: jcl
... All the versions sold on warez websites are either old A7 beta versions...


Sold?

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