Ugly text on my laptop screen

Posted By: pus2meong

Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 07:32



My laptop is:
AMD Turion x2 1.9 ghz
RAM 512 MB
VGA Nvidia Geforce 7000 (Shared memory 64 MB)
Display WXGA 14.1 inch

I'm using the code that available in the tutorial "My first computer program". I try to change the video mode (640x480/800x600/1024x768/1280x800), video screen mode, still error. I even try to change the screen resolution (640x480/800x600/1024x768/1280x800), still error. I even try to turn on and off the scaling for wide screen view, nothing work.

Anyone ever got this problem? And the solution...?
Posted By: Xarthor

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 09:51

Yep. Have the same problem:
Its about anti-aliasing as far as I know, which kind of screws up the bitmap fonts.
Thus you need to turn anti-aliasing off in your graphics-card settings.
Best would be to set it to "software-setting", which lets the software decide if anti-aliasing is used or not.
However I have no clue whats that text is in the upper right corner.

@all: Correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted By: Damocles

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 11:57

I have this problem on my Laptop too. You have to turn off the anti-aliasing.
DirectX blurrs your 2D graphics.

This is a very unfortunate feature of 3dgs, by wich games look different on different Systems.
2D Bitmaps should not get any blurring!
Posted By: D3D

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 12:55

Try to change the video mode with video_set. I have had blurred text when I run my application 800x600 window mode, but when I set the resolution from 800x600 -> 1024x768 and back to 800x600 in window mode, the text became readable again. Don't know if this is the correct way though.

Would like to ask why recommending to turn of anti-aliasing on the graphic card, when this blurred text problem occurs? Thought it was a nice feature for games in general and A7 to get rid of jagged edges.
Posted By: Xarthor

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 13:48

@D3D:
That was recommend to me by conitec staff when I reported the problem some time ago.
Posted By: D3D

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 14:37

Ok, but guess if video_set can be used to solve the problem it would be a better solution than switching off anti-alias feature on the graphics card by the end-user.

Also maybe the reason text appear blurred is different in pus2meong case. I know that it happend not only on my laptop with integrated graphics in the past, but on my other machines with Geforce 6600, 7900 and 8800 as well. If i'm not mistaken, the problem was already present in A6 GameStudio that text didn't displayed correctly.
Posted By: Joozey

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 14:45

Alternatively, it might have to do with the settings of d3d_texlimit.

http://www.coniserver.net/ubbthreads/sho...true#Post808450
Posted By: Tobias

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/03/08 17:32

Quote:

Would like to ask why recommending to turn of anti-aliasing on the graphic card, when this blurred text problem occurs? Thought it was a nice feature for games in general and A7 to get rid of jagged edges.




Nope its a BAD feature. DO NOT set Antialiasing on in the settings of the 3D card! Setting Antialiasing on makes only sense for old 3D apps that dont support antialising themselves.

For A7 and most other 3D apps, Antialiasing must be left in its default setting, which means its OFF and the software handles antialiasing itself. Otherwise small details like above in bitmap fonts will look really blurry and bad.
Posted By: D3D

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/04/08 00:12

That's odd because I let the application choose the best settings. So then acknex engine should disable anti-alias or just not use this feature, but it seems that it does and distorted the text unless I switch resolution.
Posted By: pus2meong

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/04/08 07:14

Okay, it worked now, and about the weird text in upper right corner, i find out it was the engine watermark logo. i add this code: var logo = 2; and the weird text moved to bottom right corner.

I wonder if this is bug/error? Or the installation program i've download is corrupted? but no sign of this, since it suppose tobe warn me if the installation program or the engine are corrupted/altered. I use ver. 7.06.1

Anyway, i set the antialiasing into "Application Controlled" mode, not "off".

Oh by the way, after doing another test, i only get this error watermark logo when run the engine using SED (since i'm still newbie, i never open WED, i keep using SED to learn the tutorial, silly me ). If i run the engine with WED, the watermark logo is fine. Eventualy i found out if WED using the exe version of the engine while SED using DLL version.
Posted By: jcl

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/04/08 12:01

We don't have two different engines in the package. So when you get different results that depend on how you start it, check the command line parameters. You probably have entered different parameters in SED and WED.

In modern 3D games, antialising must be handled by the application. So, use "Application Controlled" unless you have an old 3D app that does not support antialiasing. For A7, it's always "Application Controlled".
Posted By: pus2meong

Re: Ugly text on my laptop screen - 02/05/08 06:07

The parameter on WED : sk.wdl -nx 30 -wnd (sk.wdl is the name of the script), on SED i found -eq (what's this parameter? May be i accidentaly change it?).

So i change the parameter in SED using the parameter on WED, nope, still showing weird watermark just like the screenshot i show you before.

I try this,
I remove acknex.dll and the result: Engine can't be start up showing error message, on SED. On WED, the engine won't start at all, no start up screen, just doing nothing after i click the OK button on run level window.

When i remove the acknex.exe and put it back the acknex.dll in the original location, WED showing message if acknex.exe not found. But SED still run the engine, that's the reason i said SED using dll and WED using exe.

Anyway, it's still no explanation the weird watermark when i run the script using SED.
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