MP40 with hands

Posted By: frazzle

MP40 with hands - 06/24/06 20:22

Well as the topic title says, I have
finished my MP40 I recently post out a time ago.
Well here is the result, with hands, CS style so
abit oldschool but I LIKE IT

Please IGNORE the bad quality it's because of the jpg file,
I use jpg because it doesn't takes that much memory but it isn't
that good quality, there is always a bad thing isn't there

The skin I used is 512X512 I know it's abit to big and not al the place of it is taken as you'll shall see, but I'm planning to at some extra's to the skin but I'm not sure about this.
Well lay back and enjoy:

Cheers

Frazzle

Posted By: ZZZgames

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/24/06 20:30

good model and good texture especially the arms and fingers that look good.

Posted By: creature

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 00:22

unless thats a giant holding it, your gun is far too small for the hands! easy to scale though.

Posted By: cartoon_baboon

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 00:25

hands are definitely too big, but the texturing is really cool.

Posted By: tuschcarsten

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 07:35

the texturing is very cool, but the skin of the hand seems to be out of counter strike...

Posted By: TheExpert

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 10:58

You could addd moe vertices to round the hands and arms.
you are not in today models polycount !

Posted By: capanno

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 17:03

Id say make the polycount times 3, and the skin times 2.

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 19:06

Thxn for the C&C, I really appriciate it

!!!!
Now my replies

:
@ ZZZ games
Thxn !!!!

@ The Expert & Capanno
I know it isn't the best detailed skin and the model's shape can always
be better but I made this at MY way and I'm happy with it

By the way, I always wanted to make a 'pretty' shaped LOW POLY MODEL

and I think I succeded in that point !!!!

@ The rest
I think you are all right about the shape, I mis scaled it abit

BUT I rescaled it and this is the result:

The first two are the same as my first post, only that the gun is scaled or been brought in proportion with the arms:

The last two are also screens where the gun is been brought in proportion with the arms but the arm which holds the gun is been replaced underneed the gun close to the trigger away from the ammo clips:

Now it's your turn again, just tell me:

Cheers

Frazzle

Posted By: FoxZero

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/25/06 19:24

Itsa good model man. You used the polies quite efficently, but it is a rather low number. Most low poly guns now are around 1000 polies without hands, well thats my standard.

The gun is still too small. It looks like its supposed to shoot BBs.

One last thing. Since the Nazis invented this thing why not have an arm texture of a Nazi uniform? Unless this is for a game of yours. I would definately ditch the counter strike skin. I know it's directly from the game because I've extracted it before in the past.

About my Nazi uniform suggestion, don't get any wrong ideas. Most of my German ancestors were killed by Nazis. I was just making a suggestion.

Posted By: VPrime

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/26/06 05:28

could you post a wire frame and untextured picture please?

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/26/06 08:46

@Foxfire
Well the CS skin is not made by me, you probably already knew that

I have chosen for this skin because it is proper for my game, I'm not going to
tell what the idea is, but the CS skin fits perfect for my FPS

And I'm not going to put a "nazi" skin on it, I don't like the word anyway so why using it ?? The game is not about the Germain side, the story behind my game follows an Amercain style

@VPrime

Quote:

could you post a wire frame and untextured picture please?

Why do I need to show it??
First a proper answer or no wire frame and untextured picture

Posted By: PHeMoX

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/26/06 11:45

What else, apart from the counter strike texture did you 're-use'? That would be a good 'answer' for you to display the wireframe of the model ...

I like the model, but I don't like the counter strike skin,
It doesn't fit and it's not yours hehehe,

Cheers

Posted By: VPrime

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/26/06 12:42

I would just like to give some proper crits. see where the polies went. wheer some ould be added etc. if you dotn wan to post thats fine, i dont care.

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/26/06 13:21

@PHeMoX

@VPrime
Np man here you go:

The untexture version

Wireframe with vertice

Wireframe without vertice

Posted By: FoxZero

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/27/06 04:43

ummm... my names FoxZero, not Foxfire. It's right my ranking which is above my avatar. LOL Just messin' man.

Why would an American use a Nazi gun?

LOL Sorry, since I don't know what time period your game takes place I can only speculate that it takes place during WWII (I couldn't imagine a modern American soldier using such out of date weaponry). I only suggested the Nazi skin because I didn't know it was for a game. If you stated this before I apoligize. You the hell would make a game where you play as a Nazi?

Now that I see the wire frame it seems like most of the polies went to the hands and arms (which aren't yours). The gun seems too low poly. The barrel appears to be a rectangle. The gun itself is below Quake 2 standards. This gun works great for third person but for a first person view of it you should add more detail. Make the barrel rounder and add little stuff like a place for the shell casings to eject. Just my suggestion.

One last thing? Why don't you like the word Nazi? I don't mind the word Nazi, but I really hate Nazis. You know what word I don't like? Duh. It's not a word but so many people say it and it drives me nuts! I'm justplayin man. It's really late and I should go to bed LOL.

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/27/06 09:19

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ummm... my names FoxZero, not Foxfire. It's right my ranking which is above my avatar. LOL Just messin' man.

lol

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Why would an American use a Nazi gun? LOL Sorry, since I don't know what time period your game takes place I can only speculate that it takes place during WWII (I couldn't imagine a modern American soldier using such out of date weaponry). I only suggested the Nazi skin because I didn't know it was for a game. If you stated this before I apoligize. You the hell would make a game where you play as a Nazi?

Well in my game the player ISN'T playing a nazi, let be clear !!!!
I can only tell you that the 'hero' you are playing will be tormented
in a Nazi prison and you must escape by using a nazi gun, a MP40 because in
a nazi prison earn't many American gun I suggest lol

That clear enough

???? I actually told you to much but otherwise
you wouldn't understand the idea !!!!

Quote:

Now that I see the wire frame it seems like most of the polies went to the hands and arms (which aren't yours).

Well all those polies are mine lol

Where do you get the idea that they aren't mine FoxZero

????

Quote:

The gun seems too low poly. The barrel appears to be a rectangle. The gun itself is below Quake 2 standards. This gun works great for third person but for a first person view of it you should add more detail. Make the barrel rounder and add little stuff like a place for the shell casings to eject. Just my suggestion.

Well I already said, it was my intension to make a low poly model

Your suggestions seem very creative but I don't think I'm going to change it because is't kinda a historical weapon and I'm not going to make it modern

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One last thing? Why don't you like the word Nazi? I don't mind the word Nazi, but I really hate Nazis. You know what word I don't like? Duh. It's not a word but so many people say it and it drives me nuts! I'm justplayin man. It's really late and I should go to bed LOL.

Well I still don't like the word nazi but I used it in my text which is
agains my principals... well never mind I just hate every thing that
has got to do with nazi !!!!!!!!! You may wonder now and think, so why make a game with nazi weapons, well that's pure frustration agains nazi !!!!
Duh, what else

I looooooooooovvvvveeeee DUH !!!!!
Nah, just kidding with yah man

I used to use the word duh alot but not any more

Well you will probably read this after you had your beauty sleep so I hope you had a good night sleep

Posted By: snake67

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/27/06 17:40

I didnt read all posts, i am short in time. So maybe somebody did mention it allready:

the left hand is in a wrong place, it should grap around the mag. Look at those:

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/27/06 18:44

Well I also made the left hand grabbing the mag, I showed it one the post with the poll

The poll results shall make the result

Posted By: TUSC

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/27/06 19:28

Quote:

Please IGNORE the bad quality it's because of the jpg file,
I use jpg because it doesn't takes that much memory but it isn't
that good quality, there is always a bad thing isn't there

hah hah blame shifter!!! Only kiddin!! This model i really like. The skin is very detailed. Very pro.

Posted By: VPrime

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 06:00

the skins are pro, because he didnt make them.

Posted By: ShoreVietam

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 08:18

Compared to the screens the arms still are too big, the gun is not that small, but the model is good.

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 09:20

@TUSC
Thxn, but as VPrime says I didn't made them

@VPrime

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the skins are pro, because he didnt make them.

Well you are right about that, I did say this in my previous post.
If I made the skin, I wouldn't be modeling you know

I didn't make the skin my self because I can make a skin I suck at making skins
but you've got to admit, I attached it quite good to the model

@ShoreVietam
Well you may be right about the arms, but you are the first one to say that
the gun is good in proportion and I can't agree more, I really worked hard on
to the gun be in proportion with the arms !! Thxn man

Later on I may even show a screen off how it looks in the engine

Cheers

Frazzle

Posted By: TUSC

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 13:58

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the skins are pro, because he didnt make them.

Oh yes sorry I mean't the way you attached it and the actual model look very pro. I shoulda' clarified lol. It does actually look like it belongs to that model. It looks like it's the models orignal skin.

Posted By: jotha

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 16:40

for me it looks like the hands are the original hands from cs with no changes made. same mesh, same skin but i may be wrong.
the gun would be ok as a 3rd person model.

Posted By: FoxZero

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/28/06 18:41

When I suggested making the barrel rounder and to add a chamber for the shells to eject from that doesn't make it more modern, it makes it more realistic at the expense of just a few more polies.

If you're completely satisfied with the model then I guess you don't need to do anything. I've modeled many guns so I know what I'm talking about.

One last thing. I have that exact same arm model. It's definately extracted from C-Strike. My proof.

This is a screen shot from one of my old template projects. I'm not show off, it's nothing specail. I have wireframe shots too, but I think this screen is sufficent. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/29/06 15:50

Quote:

One last thing. I have that exact same arm model. It's definately extracted from C-Strike. My proof.

This is a screen shot from one of my old template projects. I'm not show off, it's nothing specail. I have wireframe shots too, but I think this screen is sufficent. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

Well I think I already said this not ?? Well if not so, I can't
say it enough, I DIDN'T make it myself

Oke now that's cleared up, I can say, yes I'm satisfied with my
gun

And I don't think you misunderstood me FoxZero

.

About your suggestion:

Quote:

When I suggested making the barrel rounder and to add a chamber for the shells to eject from that doesn't make it more modern, it makes it more realistic at the expense of just a few more polies.

Well I'm pretty happy with the gun and I will shortly post some
screens of how it looks in the engine.
I said shortly but I'm actually going on a well earned holyday so
I think I'll see you guys in about 2 weeks starting tomorrow

Cheers

Frazzle

Posted By: TheExpert

Re: MP40 with hands - 06/29/06 15:58

The texture in the hands looks pixelised :
and the vains are really big !

Posted By: frazzle

Re: MP40 with hands (Updated) - 07/19/06 21:29

I just came from my holyday, acctually almost 6 days
now

I just started back today on reworking the mp40

I made an update on the mp40, nothing big:
-bigger gun
-added some shadows and darker color
-putted the gun in FPS view in three stands, close to the gun holding the ammo clip and away from the gun also holing the ammo clip, and the arm holding the gun underneed.
Here are three screens of them, just tell me which one you think is the best:

Cheers

Frazzle

Posted By: danthaman015

Re: MP40 with hands (Updated) - 07/20/06 04:55

first