Fantasy Character Creation Contest For A6 Engine!!

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i guess i'm pretty close to this level.

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Sorry I have to disagree with you. Your work is good. Texturing is clear but not as extravagant as Tidus. Geometry isn't as well structured. If you look at Tidus, there are tonnes of unwrapping here. Also, xcelos, your specs could be better. Sorry. Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not being mean. Just expressing my honest thoughts. I'm not saying mine is better. I'm having trouble on mine too and know I could improve tonnes.

@Scary_man: Thanks. We'll see the difference in a few days. Hopefully it will be twice as good. . Keeep going on your model. Can't wait to see it skinned.

@Sjoerd: Good start to the body. Arms maybe need more work but it's still in WIP I know .

Good work everyone. See you soon.

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not that great on my opinion...
legs.. weird? show us some geometry we can help out
face.. little wide and bumpy? smooth it out!
the hair. did she use gel?
no critics on the feet! (Y) can we see her back?

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Yea, I agree. The funny thing is you (Xcelos) said you thought it wasn't far off Tidus level quality. Tidus really took my breath away.

Anyway, today's been rather exasperating. Spent like 4 hours doing the head. I really suck at this. This is the main reason why I chose to challenge it to get better though. However, I admit, I didn't realise it was going to be this hard. Well plans for tomorrow: Revise the head. I need to make it look less mirrored, also reduce the polycount by at least 10%.

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what's the point of modeling the kill bill character for this contest? it won't be useable... maybe i didn't get the idea of this contest but i think the polygon limit should be < 3000 and why isn't animation a necessity? how can a non-animated character replace the ones which come with 3dgs?

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Well the rules were clearly stated before the contest commenced. However, there may be slight errors along the lines. Yes, the Kill Bill character is not really appropriate. However, the main key issue is that we create a character that is stunning to the rest of forum users. This is why we need to try as hard as we can to convince them of our abilities and strengths within our work. This is exactly why the contest duration is 2 weeks. The polycount is mainly a guideline but we are looking for quality amongst engine performance too. Obviously, performance is an important factor but quality is also vital because we need to really jaw drop everyone with our models. Imputting these finished models into the engine is optional for the winner. We are also looking into the possibility that conitec could transfer written permission to get the more older models replaced by our updated models. This is one thing I thought when I first bought 3DGS. I thought that the models looked very old (no offence to the makers though).

We will see what happens. I was going to model Yoshimitsu from Tekken but I knew it wouldn't fit the criteria of the contest . Unfortunately, Uma Thurman doesn't really fit into the fantasy genre and there are copyright laws issued. However, from the words of 'Anne Robinson': It's votes that count .

Also, I should have said in my 1st post:

Any violation of the contest rules may enable forum users to dismiss their vote for the contestant if they wish.

So basically, for instance, if I decided to create a character will 10k triangles, you are entitled to not vote for me because I didn't follow the rules.

Also, at the end of the contest, each contestant must submit their specifications of the model as accurately as possible.

By the way, if the winning contestant can't animate and their model is accepted for the A6 engine by Conitec, you may ask someone to animate it for you if anybody is willing to.

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I have still 1000 poly's to use left

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If I were you, I'd use them. But use them wisely.

Quick update once again from me:



As you can see I scrapped the torso area and started to redo this. The head is about finished. Just need to reduce some polys on this as there may be some unnecessary ones hiding in the shadows . I might add some more geometry for an eye coming out through the hole you can see. At the end of the model I will look around for bad tri stripping etc. Polycount in tris for everything you can see in the picture is 1,200. Going for an hour. Going to do some keyboarding work. I'll spend some more hours tonight. Later .

P.S. Anyone think the shin area needs scaling a bit? Looks a bit too thin to me in circumference. Is head too thin too from the side?

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this is how we fix shapes. by editing the edgeloops and meshflows

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Hey Gafgar, want some weapon ideas? Check this link:

http://www.graphicintentions.icestormgames.com/www/lpweapons.html

. Sorry I can't let you have the models but they were made for a client (as stated at the bottom of the page).

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You have a weird character Toz, I would love to see it textured. How many polys have you used?

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Lol, I've used around 3000 tris but there were probably about 2500 in the above image because I've added some stuff to it.

EDIT: Model is finished. Undergoing texturing phase. Update soon ... By the way, where are you all? Xcelos has done a disappearing act and also, Guardian is missing. Also, Scary_man is not here. . A sad face for all of you . Maybe you're all just dead busy doing the model;)!!

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it's kinda useless making it 512x1024 cause the file has the same size as 1024^2 (at least that's what me is told)

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You've been told wrong then. As long as it's a multiple of 2 or whatever it is .

Yea, the skinning was hard. Really took a while to get this sorted and layed out like this. This is what I would call 'proper' skinning because there are people that don't bother going to all that trouble because they'd rather project 1 planared angle and have the textures all blurry and stretched.

Regarding the scaling: I may go back and redo a bit. The glove that is apparently 'overscaled' is because this is the front part of the glove, not the back. To be honest, I just did it to fill the gap lol. I'll go back and relook.

Thanks for comments.

@Scary_man: Not being nasty but those textures look way too cartoony. If you're applying a 32x32 map then I can understand it lol . Maybe you're beuilding the textures up in layers so it will only look like that for now, I don't know. Tell us!! . Again, please don't hate me .

Nice to see you both make a return .

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If u change the contest like adding Animations (standard)
Walk, Run, Walk, Pose, Crouch, Attack, Die, Hit, Jump, Swim
then u might wanna change the deadline
Also as mensioned before. Why should conitec replace standard animated
models for models who look good but are standing dummies?

I think u might wanna add this animating part aswell.

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Problem is, not everyone can animate. Also, this contest is to test your character modelling abilities, not how well you can animate. It's a good idea but we'll leave the deadline the way it is and have no animation lol. Therefore, we'll forget about adding them to A6 to replace the original models because you're right, noone wants dummies and we can't have them like that. So basically, to clarify, we are making a fully built, textured fantasy character for 5th August . I'm going to have to slip my skates on lol .

On 5th August, we'll let people submit their work from about 3 different angles. When EVERYONE has submitted, we will let the voting commence. However, we will wait for everyone but we can't wait forever . Let's just say, if you submit your model on 6th August, you will be too late because the voting will start before then. We'll see how it goes anyway and update this information then.

Well, I'm going to texture my model.

Bye bye guys and have tonnes of fun .

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and the winner gets? (A)
Honour? :P Respect? Advertisement to his portfolio ?
interview? money? :P sorry im just curious

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Money ... Not really . I guess it will earn you pride. This will enable you to make more models because you will feel so good !!

The losers will still be respected by the community for their hard work and effort in this lengthy project.

By the way, i had no time today for doing anything. I might not get it finished but it's not anyones fault. If it's not done, I'll have to miss out.

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hmmm next modelling contest ideas... zombies any one?

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Steady now lol. I've not even finished this one yet .

@Scary_man: I don't use base colors . I'm not into the cartoony look which is unfortunate because painting with photographic images are much more difficult. Maybe I'm trying to run before I can walk with texturing but I'm prepared to go to any length to expose the realistic look if I can . Thanks for your support. I really like this. It sparks me into action when I know I've got people aside me. I'm aside you too.

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Hope your moms bag sells :P or not! cause u might screw it up and u got no bag to scan :P lol

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lol thanks . Luckily, I never ever overwrite any files which I believe is very wise

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We should bet on whos gonna win heehee...

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Well it won't be me that's for sure. ok here's an update:

(Sorry for bad jpg compression. I saved in paint .)


Ok, just wanted to let you all know I'm quitting. I won't get it finished on time anyway. It's not turning out as I wanted because my imagination sucks. I knew when I started it wouldn't work. To be honest, I'd feel more bitter if I carried on because I hate wasting time on something that isn't worth it. I don't like giving up on things but on this occasion, I just know what will happen. Good luck to you all. I'll still come back and start the poll for you on 5th.

*sighs... Life sucks .*

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can't imagine y it is 1024^2

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Thanx alot for the comments

here is the skin (its hand drawn)

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Toz I'm glad you stuck with this towards the end because your model is very impressive.

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Many thanks for your kind words there FoxZero . Well I guess a full model is better than half a model . Put I'm just wondering whether to add it to my portfolio or not though. To be honest (please don't think i'm being bigheaded here), I think given the textures and proper refs, I could have improved a lot because I really just had to do this model as I went along . It was hard knowing what to do because I have trouble making things from imagination. Copying something is easier I think.

Hmm, regarding the car contest, it sounds like a good idea but if it starts round about now, I won't be able to join. I am taking a break and doing some tutorials and exercises (if I don't get bored ). I would like to do a car though so if it's in 2 weeks, I guess you could count me in .

Thanks for everyone who is taking part in the voting. We appreciate this very much.

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Btw Toz is part of your skin from your old avatar??? :P LOL

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How did you guess Feihongjr? LOL. It really saved me that day
*Toz wipes the sweat off his forehead*

I'm glad you like it lol .

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Edit: Darn... can't use images in signatures!

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I'm not surprised because imagine the bandwidth needed to keep loading up all these images .

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And hey scary_man, you could have also made the trophy high poly with 32 segments, chamfered edges and a meshsmooth applied with 3 iterations!!!!

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Hm... well this was a low poly modelling contest right? :P i would have smoothed if i was higher poly. u think im lazy?

-Jeroen