SceneEditor Contest

fogman, your one is looking good, it has a very interesting look. I like it.

3 more

...with wrong spelling..

WOW! this are beautiful light effects, but you spelled it wrong: it's "scene editor" isn't it?
but they do look very good

NAW! >.<... that’s too bad. I have dyslexia... >.<...

@ Kohji :
Is it a possibility to compete in the contest any way? -_- if you not are going to use them like you said... ?... I am sorry I can’t spell o_o...

Very good work, I like the lightning and the general design. It doesn't matter, that you spelled it wrong. Can you tell me which prgram you've used?

^^ thanks
i used PSP7... but i should have used Microsoft Word to

i maid a small add... nothing i thought about that long... but it looks better with a small text under there... but had nothing good to write..

The same logo, but good slogan.

@the others: 8 days remaining...

ok, bad image and font :/ well, hope it gets some grades ^^

Hi Gafgar

Very nice, the blue and red versions are very atmospheric.

@Inestical: Is there text? Ahh, now I see, very

the most worst, indeed... you can make it more worst every time, impressed...

I take that as an compliment

lol well done Inestical

i would like to congratulate inesticle the test.. ok ill leave that one there *private joke* on being the biggest spacker ever lol, congrats on ur worst logo :P now how about trying for the best :P

lol yeah hes proved that he can do the worst

Thanks guys.. I can't do any better, because all 'o them are stamped as worst ones..

you mean you cant do any worse

:/ not quite..

6 days remain and I've allready my favorites, also for the "worst" contest, which seems to have more success then the main contest.

lol ill do some more over the next couple of days if i get a chance

I can't expect to give you the prices, but I've already a present for you, because today is my good day, I'll raise the price count from 3 up to ten.

Good luck to all.

one of those 'good' ones.. I hope *really*

in three different colors:

They're are looking good, looks like a nexus or something like this. Very good work.

*bows* very kind you thanks

and again..

Hmm.. I think that the slogan "Scene Editor" totally disappears in your last entrys Whine.. There is so much in your picture that it let the slogan look unimportant.

~Gurke

oh.. ok ;P tho I made them like that to get i noticed.. fer example, you place thingie like that as banner, it will get at least one click per user.

Well i made 3 more and probaby my last enjoy p.s im running out of slogans





The last one isnt really a good one but i did it before i was about to go to bed

PS or PSP9? Looking good, I like the second one

whats psp7/9 ???

@all: This is your last chance, I've wrote down my favorites and I saw that I've 14, but they're only from 6 artists. This mean I need 4 more. Post something good and you'll get your place under the winners. Else I've to take not as good ones as the others and this is harder for my to choose.

YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!

oh nah i used photoshop CS

well they were my last 3, its been fun being able to participate in this contest

psp=play station portable

lol thats the first thing i thought of when i saw that

Tomorrow is the great day of this contest, finally it comes to its end, but don't worry, the ScneEditor Contest 3 starts when the second one ends.

The third contest, isn't as I said a scripting contest. I thought about this, but I think a second design contest would be better. Here's what you've to do (please don't send any until the second contest ends):
My design theme (AeroScene) wasn't as good as I expected. Now your work is to create AeroScene. Your picture shall contains the same thing you can see on my picture (window + text + buttons). The best theme becomes the new one of the SceneEditor. I'll give you a list of prices tomorrow. Good luck.

btw: What do you think about a developer diary on my homepage? I'll update the diary as often as possible to hold you up to data. What do you think about this?

i would like to point out here that ur not gonna have any customers left if uve already got 12 planned winners (2 from contest 1 and 10 from this) plus contest 3 lol, but i guess seen as ur getting all the GUI done for u its a pretty fair trade

Yes, but I'll make not only design contests. In this case the designers had the chance, next time the programmers can win something. And you can take part a second time, to win beta testing accounts and so on.

But today it's the 6th and here are the winners of the contest:

1. : lofwyr
2. : whine
3. : gafgar
4. : DragonXDark
5. : Silent_assassin
6. : creature (because it's his second time, he take part at this contest)
7. : unplaced
8. : unplaced
9. : unplaced
10.: unplaced

as you can see, there are 4 unplaced prices, we make a deal: The first four, they send me a mail get the prices for these places, ok?

worst logo: whine

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Contest 3 may start now.

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btw: I'll give you pictures these month, if I've finished the gui until there,

Yahoo, thanks mate, it was lots of fun!

Cheers.

agree Iofwyr! It was real fun, also I'll take part to the next one

To quote myself:

The third contest, isn't as I said a scripting contest. I thought about this, but I think a second design contest would be better. Here's what you've to do (please don't send any until the second contest ends):
My design theme (AeroScene) wasn't as good as I expected. Now your work is to create AeroScene. Your picture shall contains the same thing you can see on my picture (window + text + buttons). The best theme becomes the new one of the SceneEditor. I'll give you a list of prices tomorrow. Good luck.

This is what you've to do for this contest. I hope you've the same fun then with the last contest ;-)

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The prices:

1. : 1x SceneEditor Pro + BETA Testing
2. : 1x SceneEditor Pro + Support
3. : 1x DEE Tool Suite

good luck!

yay my logo didnt even get placed ^_^ im so proud

OK, so I'm just after some clarification.

Aero Scene is your initial version of the GUI look and feel for the Scene Editor application?

What components do you want to see in the design? Menus, buttons, tool bar, panels, chek boxes, radios, etc? Or do we just reskin the image you had mentioned

Aero Scene

What logo or other assets are going to go on top of it (so we can match colour or use a compliment)?

Cheers

Basically you can design what every you want, as long as it's a design for the SceneEditor. On my picture you can see the components I've designed. You can create every component you want, as long as I can see a window, a button and text on the picture you create. Of course you can add checkboxes, toolbars and so on.

hmm i may take part in this if i get a chance im very busy around this time

Of course you may take part, as everyone else here.

btw: The contest runs until the 1.2.2006, I think that's enought time. And of course there are special prices:

MSPaint Price: Price for the best design made with paint.
Big Price: Price for the biggest design

Good luck!

\o/ I'm getting the MSPaint, I make always mine in MsPaint!

Tho some in psp..

and after every contest is over kohji is throwing it all together, and the tool is ready.. what was your part? initiating the forummembers to create a scenEditor??

I never told you the tool is ready, the tool is in a very early phase, I said I'll show you the first pictures soon, not the complete application. As you can read on my homepage the release is somewhere 2006. For my part: I'm scripting, designing and doing everything else to create my SceneEditor.

Although I've lost twice in this thread, as I depart from this thread, I'd still like to take the time to congratulate the winners in the two contests. Congratulations!!! Although you have been awarded prizes that do not exist, I hope that you one day, eventually, sometime in the future, in days, months or years to come, actually receive, and hopefully, enjoy a prize. I consider those that have won the same exact non-existent prize more than once to be especially lucky. May you enjoy your prize twice as much should it ever manifest on this plane of reality. Certainly, as is obvious from this thread, the worth of a contest is not based on the existence or validity of a prize, but rather on the enjoyment had by those that participated.

If you do not trust my scripting skills, then it is not my problem, the winners will receive their prices next year, that's my word. And I try to keep everyone here, ever up to date. The current working step is the camera (90% finished) and the building mode (planting of geometry, entities, physics ...) (40&% finished) There is also a great part of the XMLtoWMP script done, which converts the XML project files to the WED wmp file. If anyone here wishes to see the code, I would show it here for everyone.

@Kohji
I don't consider my trust in your scripting skills to be relevant. I am not questioning your skills, honesty, honor, integrity, word, character, intentions or willingness to meet obligations. The product that you are advertising and awarding to entrants does not yet entirely exist or is incomplete, and can be termed vaporware. Despite your intentions, should you die tomorrow, I doubt that anyone would receive their awarded prizes. This is because, as I've already stated, the prizes do not yet exist.
I would not consider it wise to award something I do not have. You have received a lot of attention, if you do not honor your promises, you may encounter difficulty. You have placed upon yourself the pressure to deliver. This is a cost you have incurred in exchange for attention and promotion. You could have gained attention and promotion without this cost.
I was only trying to make it painfully obvious that, when an entrant is awarded a prize that does not exist, there is no guarantee that the entrant will receive the prize. If the entrants found their participation in a contest to be an enjoyable experience, then maybe, they should not be all that concerned with the prize.

Tusc?

Hi

I understood the prizes have not yet been created and did consider the contest more a fun thing than a work thing; it did not involve a lot of work. Given the nature of indie projects I do not hold any expectations. If the contest had cost me money or if I had spent days (or even hours) working on it then I might feel different.

Kohji, if for some reason your project doesn't get completed, due to computer problems, health or new endeavors, I would be satisfied if you made the source of the project available to the community in some fashion because it does sound like good work.

I think GS contests could use a little more structure. So the terms and conditions are mandatory to help clear up confusion.

Its fun competing and I hope there are some great (and terrible) entries for the next challenge.

Cheers

@testdummy: I don't think that I'll die soon. And the possiblity, that this happens is very low.

@light_mystic: TUSC was a fake as I know, the SceneEditor exists.

@lowfyr: It's fun for me to create programs in C++ or C-Script, I do this all my free time. I do everything to finish my products and to give you the best software I can give you. I want to create the game creation as easy as possible for you.

And you're right with every of your points, if the contest would coast you money, many work or something like this would be different.

And another point I forgot in my last point: I told you at the begin of the contest about the progress of the SceneEditor, if everyone read this, he knows about the progress.

To see, that I'm working on the project and to see that I work really hard on this, I give you this Code example . It's very WIP and everything else then finished, but the current version of the XMLtoWMP script.

Kohji

well this is definatly an interesting conversation

it would be great, if we could continue the contest.
This conversation isn't very useful. Thanks.

wow, this is like TUSC reborn.

lol im gonna have a go at the mspaint one

then that title is your an mine war..

@ Silent_Assassin & Whine: Have fun

@ Matt: what have you got for a problem? I don't know much about TUSC, beacuse it was in a time before I was here. The only thing I know, is that it was a fake. And the SceneEditor is no fake. I see no problem, the code is very easy to script, there are much harder things then this.

lol in the red corner Whine and in the blue corner Silent_Assassin

Round one... next week.. maybe

well whine may the better man win *shakes hands

well heres my first one done in mspaint

Hello all,

i know the contest is over but i read through this post earlier and for some reason was compelled to put something togethor. I actually ended up putting togethor several things, so here's me entry for WORST logo/splash screen. My next post will contain my serious contributions.


James

Ok then,

I checked out your M Tec website looking for something to use in the splash i'm about to post but really wasnt impressed with your logo (the site itself looks nice though) No offense, so i designed you a new logo, here it is.



Here is the splash screen for the professional edition



and for the personal edition




Also, i'm sure you noticed that Scene Editor is spelled ScenEditor, no disrespect intended, i tend to let my creations design themselves with me simply a tool so whatever looks best usually stays, but if you actually want to use them for anything i can change it for you if you like. anyway, this really is the first time i've released anything complete on here so feedback is welcome and even encouraged. Thanks guys. Also, i thought about slapping my logo all over this stuff but decided against it, it's free to use so don't even ask, just go ahead and take it if you want it.


James

First to the logo, I'm sorry to say, that I don't like it, it comes close to the first M TEC Development logo 3 or 4 years ago, the logo you can see on our homepage is very new, it's the third one, created a few days ago. We're very happy with our new logo and don't want to change it the next years.

To the splashscreens, I really like the background art, but you can't know, yesterday night, I was working very hard on the SceneEditor (cameras are now finished) and while I was working on the SceneEditor i created a new SceneEditor logo, I think I'll show it soon here together with the first screens of the SceneEditor, perhaps already today. Back to your work, it's really not bad, but the missing e and the wrong logo, I don't know...
By the way, if you want to modify it, I choosed yesterday a slogan for the SceneEditor: "dream your games". Keep your work up, it's really good.

Ok, here's a video, showing the current development progress. The video shows you how to place an geometry object and how you can view it in the flythrough mode.

video


Please notice:
- That ther gui isn't finished
- That this version cannot change the z position of an object
- That this video shows the version 0.05 of the SceneEditor
- That the video shows not the final quality of the SceneEditor

C&C are welcome.
Questions are welcome, too.

Kohji,

thanks for the compliments and critiques, and as i stated previously, no disrespect intended by the name change and the logo creation. I really just felt like creating something and had no expectation of winning the contest as i knew it was already over. Anyway, good luck with the Scene Editor, i'm looking forward to checking out the completed program.


James

@ Kohji nice job so far.

@ DarkShadow I like your logos. Very nice job.

umm kohji what codec do i need to watch that video?

it´s mpeg, so you need a DVD player.

my dvd drive doesnt work unfortunatly :/ not sure whats wrong with it i thnk the laser might be broken. which means that it wasnt recognised during the install so i guess thats why its not showing for me :/

To the SceneEditor features:
I'm aiming on a non-interface tool, that means that you'll have no big gui taking all the view, you'll create the level with the keyboard and mouse. Of course there are gui's too, but only as many as required. Unused gui's will disappear. There will be several ways to build and modify, a flythrough, which you already see in the video, a top view and a RTS view. There are several render modes, too. (Shaded, Wireframe, Points) Realtime physics creation, effect emitters, dialog functions. You can change the sky, choose wad files for your wmp file and place the sun. You can set the fog, choos the script for the level, use SceneEditor templates including several useful things. And many more...

Entities
Change skins, attach actions, set materials and shaders, choose skills/flags...

Geometry
Scale, use textures, use shaders and materials...

Effects
Use emitters and place them in the level, create the effects and view the results in realtime in your level. Imagine, that you create scenes, in which an actor is running through a room, and behind him is everything exploding. And you can see the results, while you're creating them.

Physics
What is better then realtime physics editing? Nothing! There are no limits with the SceneEditor. Ok, perhaps your hardware.

To the Contest:
The contest is still running, please take part.

To the future:
Current Version: 0.1
Release of the next video: this month
Release of the first public beta: unknown
Release of the SceneEditor: 2006

hey kohji you never mentioned anything bout that aeroscene thing i did on page 19 i think it was...

Ahh, I'm very sorry, how could this happen? (question to me)
Ok, here's my meaning:
looking good for mspaint, but I think the font is much too big. I hope to see more styles to give you a better meaning, but if you aimed again on the worst logo, this is the right way.

logo? It's in the moment the only design posted here, and as I tried to say, I've to see different ones from differnt designers to give a good comment.

well actually i wasnt aiming to make the worst design but if i get time ill prob make one more and i dont really care about any crits you might have it only helps me to improve

Ok, hope to see the next one

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To the current development progress:
+ Geometry
# Place (x,y,z)
# scale (x,y,z)
# texture

+physics
# place

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I think the program is done around 3.06. Next video will come soon.

whohooo, if you ever keep what you promise and finish the program i'll buy 10 licenses just to repay you for the laughs you caused for me...
thanks man, great, keep it up...

(how about first developing the program and then giving away free copies or about first developing the program and then at the end looking for a logo?)

im sure he will stick with this ...... he better :P

I'll close this contest now, not because I stop the project, it's because no one is taking part anymore.

The SceneEditor itself is grwoing very fast and very good. Soon the offical homepage www.scene-editor.com will be online and then you can find there screens, infos and videos.

Kohji

does that mean i win

When will the homepage be on-line?

@ Silent_Assassin: You'll get your prices of course.
@ QA_Sylver: I think around the next week.

okay, I'll make one too, so I'll get your first prize xD

lol no you wont contest has already closed lol

indeed, read my post on page 21 and the headline "SceneEditor Contest End". Perhaps I'll make a contest on my page after the presentation here in the forum. But this is just an idea, this contest has closed.

Yeah, I know that ;P Just messing around..

WEll.. Good luck on yer project, finish it quickly (not too) so I can get my prize

yes good luck on your project Kohji unfortuantly i am going away for the holidays so when i get back i hope to see some progress

Thanks,
and sorry for the late answer, but I had to do. Now I take a moment, to let everyone know that the SceneEditor homepage is online now (http://www.scene-editor.com) and is waiting with a surprise (a little plugin from an old friend)...

Sorry for this off-topic post, it will be the last one in this post.

nice work on the website there Kohji

Looking forward to it