Ragdoll system

Hi!

Ich wollt nur mal erwähnen, dass ich gerade an einem Charakter Studio für 3dgs arbeite mit folgenden features:
- benutzen von "biped" objekten(wie in 3dmax)

- das "biped" obkjekt fungiert als ragdoll und/oder player(je nach wahl)

- das biped controlliert ein bone skelett(mdl bones technik) das sich auf jedes humane model übertragen lässt.

- das system funktioniert mit high poly figuren!!!!!!(screenshots coming soon)

- das biped funktioniert mit der NewtonGamePhysik!
(d.h. wenn der player bzw. das biped objekt durchs level läuft argiert es dynamisch mit anderen newton physik objekten)

- es sind eigene animation des biped möglich(mit keypoints die als wdl generiert werden).

- alle physikalischen funktionen von der NewtonPhysik sind möglich z.b. tote körper im wasser schwimmen lassen(siehe z.b."farcry")


Das Ragdoll system funktioniert schon ganz gut ich bin gerade am coden des animations menüs...dauert aber nicht mehr lange dann is es fertig.
screenshots kann ich jetzt net posten, weil kein server zur verfügung steht und ich heute zu müde bin. screenshots und weiteres am wochenende.
(sorry, i am now too lazy for an english translation, good night good fight )

hey friendly_chris,

as this sounds as a GREAT contribution to ALL of us, i have taken the time to translate for you ^^.

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Hi!

I'd like to tell you, that i am working on a character studio with the following features:
- useage of "biped" objects(as in 3dmax)

- the "biped" character functions as ragdoll and/or player (whatever fits your needs)

- the biped controls a bone skeleton(mdl bones technique) which can be used on your human model.

- the system works on high poly models too!!!!!!(screenshots coming soon)

- the biped works with NewtonGameDynamics too!
(ex. if the player or the biped object walks through the level it reacts dynamically with other physical objects)

- it's possible to do your own animations (with keypoints which are being generated into a wdl).

- All physics functions from newton are possible, for ex. dead body's floating in the water(look at "farcry" for example).


The ragdoll works good now and i'm busy on coding the animations menu'sich ...Wont take too long before it should be finished.
I cant post any Screenshots yet, because i've no server ready and i am too lazy. Screenshots will come at the end of the week.
( Translated by Dennis van den broek (yeah, he's from holland XD ), have fun )

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sounds real nice, cant wait to test all this out, i once made a ragdoll system too, but those were just hinged objects and had no rotation limits (will your system have??).

regards,

Sounds like a great contribution.
I can't wait to see it here.
Hurry up!

If you are gonna use the biped system will it be able:

1.) to load biped structures (set up an ik chain in max and import the data format)?
2.) load biped animation sequences?

sounds like a great tool, and i am looking forward to see it in action.
cheers

to Blattsalat:
no sorry, this script can't import data from 3dmax or ik chains, it's just a simple but effectiv tool(works like "easyParticle3"). The best thing of it is that you don't need to create any frame or bone animation in MED(or 3dmax) you can do this in 3dgs in realtime (than create an animation wdl) and use it in your game. also nice animation sequences are possible.
I will wirte a tutorial and give an example level with it. More infos and screens, demos coming the next days...
greetings
chris

to dennis_fantasy:
well, my ragdoll/biped-object has hinges with rotation limits...but this is just a confi of the newton script. so, there is not problem at all.
greetings,
chris

p.s.: nebenbei, ich arbeite schon seit a4 mit 3dgs( mein alter nick war Nexus)

ok, here are some screenshots of my model dolly, it will be in the tutorial level, too. as i said, the model is controlled by bones, the bones are controlled by the "newton" biped object. the biped fits to dolly and reacts with other newton objects(in the picture it is newtons "water_pool" action).
the right leg can be controlled by keys...demo will come...

important: this biped is not finished! the fingers are missing and some hinge changes have to be done.



(i forgot the shadow, with it, it looks better)


!!I also forgot to mention that a face animation tool will be included(only useful for high poly models)!! I a simple tool with controllers for the face(of course without newton action).

Looking forward to the contribution. Dolly's a babe, good job there.

Hey, really nice and promising!
I'm looking forward to test it as soon as possible

Im looking forward to it! Great work.

Very nice work, just what I've been looking for. This is going to be an awesome addition for newton !

Absolutly cant wait!!!

Hi! This is a screenshot with the main menu...

It is a long way to go until the system will be finished, but i am going to hurry up.
greetings
chris form germany

Looks promising, keep up the good work.

Hi! I made the select menu for the body bones...
I think, I can finish the keypoint-animation script tomorrow


Greetings
Chris

Very cool Chris. Can't wait to see it in action.

Loco

Any more progress with this?

Hey Friendly Chris,
have you made progress on your app?

sorry, i had a problem with my gforce card, I think i can finish a nice demo this week for you, next week maybe the "release week"

Hi! I made a simple test demo for you, that you don't get so nervous while waiting...
!!!!IMPORTANT: the demo does NOT reflect the current state of the programm, the hinges of the legs and arms are without "pan" and "tilt" and the hands have no fingers!So, the demo has not the latest ragdoll-updates...but I think you can see that it works very fine with high models.(vertices: body = 9203, cloth = 2013, hair = 265)

For the demo you should know that you can zoom the camera with the mouse wheel and call the mouse with the right mouse button, if you press X you can control the right leg. The other functions are explained in the demo.

Simple TEST DEMO:Part1 Part2 Part3 Part4(7,3 MB)


You need Winrar to unpack!
greetings
chris

I get file corruption messages. If you want to email it as a complete archive to rhuarc[at]shadowforgeserver.net I will host it on my server for you.

-Rhuarc

I tested the download too and it worked, maybe you try it again...you need all 4 parts and the latest winrar...
I sent you the exe file...you can upload it

I love it so far, besides the things you mentioned, it feels stable and behaves very good. Maybe the best ragdoll test on this forum so far
I almost felt like a pervert throwing around this seminaked model
Keep it up man, it's gonna be a great contribution.

Thanks!!! I almost finished with the ragdollsystem script, everything works very good, like I expected...I hope I can finish the whole thing soon...I need it for my next games and you too, I think
CU
Chirs

Hi! I have a lot of problems with my "physical-balance" script, dolly is dancing crazy around and nothing fits right now,...I can upload a new demo this week, but not the final version, sorry...
cu chris

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Hi! I have a lot of problems with my "physical-balance" script, dolly is dancing crazy around and nothing fits right now,...

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Sorry to hear that.
I bet this kind of thing is pretty difficult to do.
Keep up the good work. This thing is looking great!
Whatever you do... please don't give up on it.