Disproving God has never been so funny..

Posted By: LarryLaffer

Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/09/08 00:11

..and who's better for that job than Douglas Adams himself..

Here's what I'm referring to.. It's a joke from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and coincidentally another funny nail to the whole Bible Coffin:


"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved
purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence
of God.
"The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist,"says God, "for proof denies faith, and
without faith I am nothing.'
"But,"says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves
you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
"Oh dear,"says God, "I hadn't thought of that,"and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy,"says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that red is green and gets himself killed
on the next road crossing.


The whole thing popped to my head on Alberto's/JulzMighty talk about faith in another thread but I decided it would be way too off-topic to post it there. By the way, for anyone who hasn't read HGTTG, you can replace the words "Babel Fish" with "Human Beings".

Cheers,
Aris
Posted By: Michael_Schwarz

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/09/08 00:51

Glad to know there are others out here who have enjoyed Adam's masterpieces of bookwriting laugh
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/19/08 12:51

Yeah, I find his writing outright hilarious and his sci-fi universe is also pretty solid.
Click to reveal..
...He almost have me convinced that Earth is indeed a massive calculating machine leased by God to do the dirty math for him.. It's certainly not more outstretched than any other religion out there.. (maybe apart from the multi-dimensional mice..)

Posted By: PHeMoX

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/19/08 17:11

Originally Posted By: LarryLaffer

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved
purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence
of God.
"The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist,"says God, "for proof denies faith, and
without faith I am nothing.'
"But,"says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves
you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
"Oh dear,"says God, "I hadn't thought of that,"and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy,"says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that red is green and gets himself killed
on the next road crossing.



Hilarious indeed! :P

Cheers
Posted By: Joozey

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/20/08 22:46

Yeah, I hear quite a few people praising HGTTG to heaven, I think I need to buy one copy as well :P.
Posted By: heinekenbottle

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/20/08 22:54

Originally Posted By: LarryLaffer

"Oh dear,"says God, "I hadn't thought of that,"and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.


I'm always reminded of this when I get into an argument with any rabid fundamentalist.
Posted By: PHeMoX

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/21/08 18:44

Originally Posted By: heinekenbottle
Originally Posted By: LarryLaffer

"Oh dear,"says God, "I hadn't thought of that,"and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.


I'm always reminded of this when I get into an argument with any rabid fundamentalist.


Haha, yeah, well most of the time they don't really get into a real discussion. (I have to say though, in Hilbert's Hotel there have been some pleasant discussions.)

Cheers
Posted By: Irish_Farmer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/27/08 22:11

That's one of the worst arguments against God's existence I've ever heard. No offense.
Posted By: broozar

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/28/08 11:31

and where's the "fun", you promised in the thread title?
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 11/30/08 12:23

Originally Posted By: Irish_Farmer
That's one of the worst arguments against God's existence I've ever heard. No offense.


I'm sorry to dissapoint. In my inferior mind the arguement did made sense..

a=God doesn't appear because he wants people to believe in him
b=Christians brag all the time that the complexity of intelligent design proves a creator, so:

a:God requires faith to exist (major premise)
b:Int. Design proves a God (minor premise)
ergo God doesn't exist (conclusion)

So, either you need to review your Bible that says God doesn't show up because he wants to give people freedom of choice or say that Int. Design doesn't really prove God but you can't have the pie and eat it too cause the two together clash (like a zillion other things in this religion).

Originally Posted By: broozar
and where's the "fun", you promised in the thread title?


It's there, you just missed it.


Anyway, since I don't really want to turn this into yet another discussion about you know what, I'll turn this into a religion humour thread instead.. Here's three more for starters... They're from the book "The naked jape" by Jimmy Carr, (Jimmy Carr=yet another comedy genious if you ask me)


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I was walking across a bridge and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. So I ran over and said, 'Stop! Don't do it. There's so much to live for!'

He said, 'Like what?'
I said, 'Well, are you religious?'
'Yes.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?'
'Christian.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?'
'Protestant.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?'
'Baptist.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?'
He said, 'Baptist Church of God.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?'
'Reformed Baptist Church of God.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?'
He said, 'Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915.'
I said, 'DIE, HERETIC SCUM!' and I pushed him off.

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St Peter decides to take the day off to go fishing, so Jesus offers to keep an eye on the Pearly Gates. He is not sure what to do, so Peter tells him to find out a bit about people as they arrive in heaven, and this will help him decide if he can let them in. After a while, Jesus sees a little old man with white hair approaching who looks very, very familiar. He asks the old man to tell him about himself. The old man says, 'I had a very sad life. I was a carpenter and had a son who I lost at a relatively young age, and although he was not my natural child, I loved him dearly.'
Jesus welled up with emotion. He threw his arms around the old man and cried, 'Daddy!'
The old man replied, 'Pinocchio?'


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Some nuns are renovating a church and getting very hot and sweaty. The Mother Superior suggests they take off their clothes and work naked. The nuns agree but bolt the church door as a precaution. They've all stripped down when there's a knock at the door. 'Who is it?' says the Mother Superior.
A voice replies, 'It's the blind man!'
The Mother Superior opens the door, and the man says, 'Hey, nice tits, Sister. Where do you want these blinds?'

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Posted By: JibbSmart

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 00:43

Quote:
a:God requires faith to exist (major premise)
actually false premise. God requires nothing from us.
Quote:
b:Int. Design proves a God (minor premise)
quoting Christians who use the word "proves" over-zealously. "supports His existence" would probably be better.

the last three were great laugh (including the picture)
the Pinocchio one especially.

the Baptist one much less so, just because by the time i got to the bottom i already predicted the outcome. it probably should've been shorter if the purpose was just to be funny.

julz
Posted By: Joozey

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 02:28

Hehe nice jokes :P. I think the Baptist was indeed a little long, but does resemble well what's going on between all those minority groups. They all think they're superior over each other on the irrelevant details, while they have so much in common on the things that dó matter. Probably searching that way too far :P but in that way, it's sarcasm. And sarcasm is the funnies humor ^-^.
Posted By: JibbSmart

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 03:21

it actually resembles poorly what's going on between minority groups. well, that's a generalisation on my part, but any church i've been with (whatever the denomination) has had a close relationship with other churches of other denominations. this closeness is Christianity as it should be anywhere else.

it's not about superiority, it's about being able to have fellowship with like-minded Christians. denominations are (usually) just labels for slightly varying beliefs within one (mostly) unified church. often these differences are as simple as one denomination giving church decisions to a congregational vote while another puts such decisions in the hands of a group of "elders" nominated by the congregation.

@Larry: i don't wanna derail the thread; just sometimes i've gotta say something about a misconception or misrepresentation of something i'm well-acquainted with.

julz
Posted By: amy

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 04:14


Posted By: JibbSmart

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 05:08

i've never had a problem with political incorrectness, but sometimes i struggle with being overly picky with just plain incorrectness... i'll either have to refrain, or leave this thread altogether...

but all in all that one's really funny, and prompted me to look up "Rastafarianism", which is really interesting :P

my favourites are the Buddhism and Judaism ones, as well as the climactic Rastafarianism.

julz
Posted By: PHeMoX

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/01/08 14:19

Quote:
I was walking across a bridge and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. So I ran over and said, 'Stop! Don't do it. There's so much to live for!'

He said, 'Like what?'
I said, 'Well, are you religious?'
'Yes.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?'
'Christian.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?'
'Protestant.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?'
'Baptist.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?'
He said, 'Baptist Church of God.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?'
'Reformed Baptist Church of God.'
I said, 'Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?'
He said, 'Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915.'
I said, 'DIE, HERETIC SCUM!' and I pushed him off.


Very funny indeed.

Quote:
it's not about superiority, it's about being able to have fellowship with like-minded Christians.


It has even more to do with peer-pressure psychology. Make people believe they are part of a much bigger group and they are easier influenced. Eventually it is all about make-believe and a certain kind of superiority. If they wouldn't believe their version is the best, wouldn't they just join a different group?

Cheers
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/03/08 17:13

Quote:
Quote:
a:God requires faith to exist (major premise)
actually false premise. God requires nothing from us.


You know what I mean.. Everytime I meet a christian and ask him why god doesn't show up, the argument is always the same. He wants us to be free whether to believe in him or not. So without faith, you can't really tell if he exists or not just by logic alone.. He has even spread fake fossils around to fool people and question their faith that tricky bastard :P (my apologies for the blasphemy)


Quote:
Quote:
b:Int. Design proves a God (minor premise)
quoting Christians who use the word "proves" over-zealously. "supports His existence" would probably be better.


and then you say that by observing nature you get indisputable evidence that there's a designer. So, that's what I'm saying, it's a pretty good argument despite Irish's disapproval.. But other than defending Douglas's joke, i don't mean to convert anyone in this topic or extend this any further.. I almost didn't want to write this post to begin with..


But let's make up for all the boring back-n-forth with more religion jokes..


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The Pope is visiting a town and all the residents are lining the street, hoping for a blessing. The Mayor is sure the Pope will stop and talk to him, but is surprised when the Pope ignores him completely and whispers a few words to a filthy old tramp standing on the other side of the road. 'Of course!' thinks the Mayor. 'The Pope cares more for the poor and homeless, not the rich like me!' With this he dashes over to the tramp, buys his clothes, gets into them, then runs to the end of the street and lines up again. Sure enough the Pope sees the Mayor and walks over to talk to him.
'Hey, stinky,' whispers the Pope. 'I thought I told you to get lost.'


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Saul is working in his store when he hears a booming voice from above: 'Saul, sell your business.' He ignores it. It goes on for days. 'Saul, sell your business for $3 million.' After weeks of this, he relents, sells his store. The voice says, 'Saul, go to Las Vegas.' He asks why. 'Saul, take the $3 million to Las Vegas.' He obeys, goes to a casino. Voice says, 'Saul, go to the blackjack table and put it all down on one hand.' He hesitates but knows he must. He's dealt an eighteen; the dealer has a six showing. 'Saul take a card.' 'What? The dealer has -' 'Take a card!' He tells the dealer to hit him. Saul gets an ace. Nineteen. He breathes easily. 'Saul, take another card.' 'What?' 'TAKE ANOTHER CARD!' He asks for another card. It's another ace. He has twenty. 'Saul, take another card,' the voice commands. 'I have twenty!' Saul shouts. 'TAKE ANOTHER CARD!!' booms the voice. 'Hit me,' Saul says. He gets another ace. Twenty-one. The booming voice goes: 'UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!'

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Posted By: heinekenbottle

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/03/08 18:11

Originally Posted By: JulzMighty

but all in all that one's really funny, and prompted me to look up "Rastafarianism", which is really interesting :P


julz


As a new convert, I urge you to research Pastafarianism.
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/03/08 18:59

Originally Posted By: heinekenbottle
As a new convert, I urge you to research Pastafarianism.


Flying spaghetti monster FTW smile
Posted By: JibbSmart

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/03/08 23:44

common Christian arguments sadly rarely have a sound theological basis, but you're right, discussion thereof is for another thread perhaps.

that black-jack one was hilarious laugh it could even have been a totally serious testimony until the last line. that's probably what makes it so great.

Pastafarianism? just had a look:
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The Pastafarian belief of heaven stresses that it contains beer volcanoes and a stripper factory. Hell is similar, except that the beer is stale, and the strippers have VD.
hilarious laugh of course i read much more than that, but i think that's particularly funny, as well as the Eight I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts.

julz
Posted By: Irish_Farmer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/10/08 19:26

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I'm sorry to dissapoint. In my inferior mind the arguement did made sense..


I understand that this thread is meant for fun, but being that I'm a disagreeable jerk, I think I'll nitpick your logic anyway. smile

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So, either you need to review your Bible that says God doesn't show up because he wants to give people freedom of choice or say that Int. Design doesn't really prove God but you can't have the pie and eat it too cause the two together clash (like a zillion other things in this religion).


Really, this could be part of a much larger epistemic argument, which I don't have the wherewithall to participate in. However, my initial reaction would be to ask you to quote the verse which says that God doesn't appear because that would prove His existence. I don't recall such a verse. If you can quote that verse, then we can talk.

Here's a shocker, even if such a verse exists, it's always possible that the Bible is generally correct with the exception of that one verse (being that the verse is, according to you, illogical). This is probably a controversial conclusion, but it's worth considering.
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/10/08 20:25

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I understand that this thread is meant for fun, but being that I'm a disagreeable jerk, I think I'll nitpick your logic anyway. smile


nitpick away, you bastard :P



Quote:
Really, this could be part of a much larger epistemic argument, which I don't have the wherewithall to participate in. However, my initial reaction would be to ask you to quote the verse which says that God doesn't appear because that would prove His existence. I don't recall such a verse. If you can quote that verse, then we can talk.



Lol, r u asking from me to find a bible quote for you ?:P I don't know what's in that book, I'm just saying that since everytime I ask a christian "If there's a God, why doesn't he show up" I always end up with the answer I mentioned before, this argument fits. But how about this: I'm happy that I disprove christians claiming the God needs faith, you're happy that it's not in the bible so it doesn't matter anyway, so how about we leave it at that and make this the shortest religious discussion ever?

Cheeers,
Aris


PS: I'm running out of jokes to write, but here's a random pic I found.. If Jesus was a forum user...


Posted By: smitty

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/10/08 22:55

Larry, it's a good thing that God is patient and long-suffering, but one day you will have to answer to Him.
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/10/08 23:41

Well, I guess if I finally do meet God and he looks angry at me, I'd just say:

-Why so serious?
Posted By: smitty

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/11/08 00:03

When you meet Him, and you will, I do not think you will have anything to say.
Posted By: LarryLaffer

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/11/08 18:02

Well you clearly seem offended but try to hide it behind your "christian" good manners.. All I'm saying is, if there was a God it sounds to me that he'd be able to take a joke, being he's all-knowing and all-everything..

But anyway, you seem like the usual totally brainwashed bible loving kid (you say you're an adult but from your posts I'd be surprised if you're even 16 or so..), so I have totally no interest in arguing with you about God being real and all that. This is a humour thread, so either contribute to the topic or kindly gtfo my thread wink Excuse my french..


So.. check this awesome picture out.. It's a slightly altered picture of the one on the evolution of man and shows how everything from politics and religion is all being done for the same thing.. Figure out what it is and win..something :P



Btw, I'm not too familiar with forum's rules on photos like this which may have some nudity in them. Let me know if this ain't appropriate and i'll just make it an external link instead.


Cheers,
Aris
Posted By: amy

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/17/08 14:45

http://www.aegisub.net/2008/12/if-programming-languages-were-religions.html

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C would be Judaism - it's old and restrictive, but most of the world is familiar with its laws and respects them. The catch is, you can't convert into it - you're either into it from the start, or you will think that it's insanity. Also, when things go wrong, many people are willing to blame the problems of the world on it.

Java would be Fundamentalist Christianity - it's theoretically based on C, but it voids so many of the old laws that it doesn't feel like the original at all. Instead, it adds its own set of rigid rules, which its followers believe to be far superior to the original. Not only are they certain that it's the best language in the world, but they're willing to burn those who disagree at the stake.

PHP would be Cafeteria Christianity - Fights with Java for the web market. It draws a few concepts from C and Java, but only those that it really likes. Maybe it's not as coherent as other languages, but at least it leaves you with much more freedom and ostensibly keeps the core idea of the whole thing. Also, the whole concept of "goto hell" was abandoned.

C++ would be Islam - It takes C and not only keeps all its laws, but adds a very complex new set of laws on top of it. It's so versatile that it can be used to be the foundation of anything, from great atrocities to beautiful works of art. Its followers are convinced that it is the ultimate universal language, and may be angered by those who disagree. Also, if you insult it or its founder, you'll probably be threatened with death by more radical followers.

C# would be Mormonism - At first glance, it's the same as Java, but at a closer look you realize that it's controlled by a single corporation (which many Java followers believe to be evil), and that many theological concepts are quite different. You suspect that it'd probably be nice, if only all the followers of Java wouldn't discriminate so much against you for following it.

Lisp would be Zen Buddhism - There is no syntax, there is no centralization of dogma, there are no deities to worship. The entire universe is there at your reach - if only you are enlightened enough to grasp it. Some say that it's not a language at all; others say that it's the only language that makes sense.

Haskell would be Taoism - It is so different from other languages that many people don't understand how can anyone use it to produce anything useful. Its followers believe that it's the true path to wisdom, but that wisdom is beyond the grasp of most mortals.

Erlang would be Hinduism - It's another strange language that doesn't look like it could be used for anything, but unlike most other modern languages, it's built around the concept of multiple simultaneous deities.

Perl would be Voodoo - An incomprehensible series of arcane incantations that involve the blood of goats and permanently corrupt your soul. Often used when your boss requires you to do an urgent task at 21:00 on friday night.

Lua would be Wicca - A pantheistic language that can easily be adapted for different cultures and locations. Its code is very liberal, and allows for the use of techniques that might be described as magical by those used to more traditional languages. It has a strong connection to the moon.

Ruby would be Neo-Paganism - A mixture of different languages and ideas that was beaten together into something that might be identified as a language. Its adherents are growing fast, and although most people look at them suspiciously, they are mostly well-meaning people with no intention of harming anyone.

Python would be Humanism: It's simple, unrestrictive, and all you need to follow it is common sense. Many of the followers claim to feel relieved from all the burden imposed by other languages, and that they have rediscovered the joy of programming. There are some who say that it is a form of pseudo-code.

COBOL would be Ancient Paganism - There was once a time when it ruled over a vast region and was important, but nowadays it's almost dead, for the good of us all. Although many were scarred by the rituals demanded by its deities, there are some who insist on keeping it alive even today.

APL would be Scientology - There are many people who claim to follow it, but you've always suspected that it's a huge and elaborate prank that got out of control.

LOLCODE would be Pastafarianism - An esoteric, Internet-born belief that nobody really takes seriously, despite all the efforts to develop and spread it.

Visual Basic would be Satanism - Except that you don't REALLY need to sell your soul to be a Satanist...

Posted By: heinekenbottle

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/17/08 15:04

Quote:

Visual Basic would be Satanism - Except that you don't REALLY need to sell your soul to be a Satanist...


LoL, I remember learning VBASIC in high school.

It was indeed a satanic code.
Posted By: JibbSmart

Re: Disproving God has never been so funny.. - 12/18/08 03:39

i'm pretty sure you can convert to Judaism, and perhaps even C wink but yeah, C's best learned at the start.

some good parallels there.

i like Python laugh but who doesn't?

i feel very fortunate to have never been part of VBASIC.

julz
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