neue ZOMBIE Wellle

Posted By: alpha_strike

neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 07:15

Es scheint, als hätten wir gerade Aufbruchstimmung für
ein neues (?), ausgegrabenes Genre.
WW2 ist definitiv out, CoD6 geht wieder in Richtung Modern - aber was wirklich interessant ist - die Untoten rücken wieder näher.

Selbst www.3drt.com liefert einen obergeilen Zombie-Pack ab, den Zapan, Dark, Clown und alle anderen, die gerade bei Blut, Leichen und Gedärm angelangt sind, sich unbedingt anschauen sollten.

Ich persönlich würde so eine Richtung sehr freudig in der Person als Konsument aufnehmen. Was meint Ihr?
Posted By: the_clown

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 10:28

Sicher. Hab selbst gerade mein Konzept auf Untotes Gewürm umgestellt... Waskostet denn dieses Pack?
Wie auch immer, Zombies sind definitiv auf dem Vormarsch...
(im bildlichen Sinne laugh )
Posted By: MDMDFSS

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 11:04

Wieso Zombies!?

I kannt play / mack games with zombie`s.
Im to scared...
Posted By: the_clown

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 11:09

For our english speaking friends: This is a thread about the returning of zombies in games; Give your opinion,your thoughts...
Do you think this is good, or don't you like zombies?
Posted By: KiwiBoy

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 11:23

I think Zombies are still good, they give instant dread and fear when spotted and consequently, a touch of panic.
They are great for crowd attacks and can be given power ups like fresh vitality after a meal laugh
Posted By: Cowabanga

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 11:48

Zombies aren't bad, but they're not good. So if someone made a zombies game, i won't buy it if i didn't see something instresting. wink
Posted By: Zapan@work

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 11:55

clicking "buy" now.... smile
Posted By: alpha_strike

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 12:59

btw... zombies are very good for the majority of 3dgs - users.
So we can shit on programms like "Intense X" or other AI laugh
Posted By: Damocles_

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 13:50

Simmt, Zombie KI lässt sich am besten durch ein Zombie Modell
darstellen.
Posted By: darkinferno

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 16:07

i guess when u have zombies.. bad AI can make ur game look good... lol, theres two ways to build a zombie game in my book...
1- trigger happy zombie shooter
2- slow paced scarefest

i prefer number 1...

equation:

player + minigun+zombie+blood= happy
Posted By: the_clown

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 16:08

Da stellt sich aber auch die Frage: Wie stellt man en anspruchsvolles Spielerlebnis für den Endnutzer sicher, ohne eine "gute" KI?
Eine mögliche Antwort: Trefferzonen!!! Ein Beispiel: der angreifende Zombie ist nur am Kopf verwundbar, oder nur am Bauch, oder... das wurde in Dead Space schon angedeutet, da gab's ja auch Monster, die nur nach Treffern in bestimmte Zonen endgültig den Geist aufgaben - Oder nach Zerstückeln eben. laugh

EDIT: darkinferno, you'll love my game... I just implemented the minigun yyou sent me laugh (more or less, it doesn't shoot yet)
Posted By: alpha_strike

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 16:59

Kennt jemand noch diesen alten Trash-Streifen?
Als die Alte auf den Tisch gedroschen wird und sie erzählt, was Zombies gerne essen ? GEHIRN, GEHIRN, GEHIRN




How do we get them back in the grave?

Posted By: Espér

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 17:56

Das iss der Film "Return of living Dead" oder im Deutschen "ZOMBIES alive" ( leider nimmer bei Amazon zu bekommen >.< )

Die Ärzte verwenden Szenen daraus für das Musik video von "Antizombie"...

Der Streifen iss cool.. aber sowas von total Sinnlos..

Zombies sind ind er Spielewelt, und seit neustem wieder in der Filmwelt, seit Residetn Evil voll im Kommen. Es folgen Evil Dead, Crawler, Dark Sector, Left4Dead... etc
Ich bin echter fan von Zombiegames. Sicherlich wegen der Gewalt in solchen Spielen.. Abr auch wegen der meist Top umsetzung einer wandelnden leiche.
Posted By: darkinferno

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/08/09 21:31

Originally Posted By: the_clown
Da stellt sich aber auch die Frage: Wie stellt man en anspruchsvolles Spielerlebnis für den Endnutzer sicher, ohne eine "gute" KI?
Eine mögliche Antwort: Trefferzonen!!! Ein Beispiel: der angreifende Zombie ist nur am Kopf verwundbar, oder nur am Bauch, oder... das wurde in Dead Space schon angedeutet, da gab's ja auch Monster, die nur nach Treffern in bestimmte Zonen endgültig den Geist aufgaben - Oder nach Zerstückeln eben. laugh

EDIT: darkinferno, you'll love my game... I just implemented the minigun yyou sent me laugh (more or less, it doesn't shoot yet)


then get it shooting... lol...

zombie horde attacks... player pulls minigun.... shouts DIEEE!!!!... oh oops, zombies right? shouts DIE AGAIN!!!

squeezes trigger, nothing happens, looks at ammo, ammo=999... wait, gamedesigner didnt make the gun shootable!!!?

NOOOO!!!!... lol... ok i'm done
Posted By: EvilSOB

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 10:11

Originally Posted By: Kaufman (in Land of the Dead)
Zombies, man. [shudder] They creep me out.


Gotta have Zombies! More Zombies! Zombies-zombies!
Alien-zombies! Mechano-zombies! Nazi-zombies!
SurferDude-zombies! CheerLeader-zombies!

Your game has shadows? Put zombies in em!
Your game has water? Put zombies under it!
Your game has a player? Put zombies behind him!

[Deep Breath}[Deep Breath}...
Sorry, maybe not THAT many zombies, but zombies are a great
source of primal fear and disgust.

I really like the concept becoming more prevalent in movies these days,
FAST zombies!
I havent seen them much in games yet, but theres room there for them.

Join the ZOMBIE PRESERVATION SOCIETY today!
Posted By: Machinery_Frank

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 10:30

Originally Posted By: EvilSOB
Join the ZOMBIE PRESERVATION SOCIETY today!


Many of you sound like if Zombies are a race close to extinction.

But it is the other way around. We are flooded with too much Zombies in almost every game (FEAR, Doom3, HL2, the Quake-series, Left For Dead, Dead Space and much more).

This is nothing new and will not get an innovation price especially from game magazines. Nevertheless I am looking forward to your progress.
Posted By: alpha_strike

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 10:51

@Frank...
...but Zombies are like star wars.
The good and the bad are clearly defined.
And this is the reason why games with zombies, werewolfs, vampires, the peronal evil always works. You simply can´t get enough from the question ... how can you kill somebody who is already dead. It is strange to shoot on soldiers in cod, but it is mysterious to shot on something which humanity can´t explain.
This is the stuff since the beginning of mankind. The fear of the dark, the fear of the dead, fear of hell, fear of pain... suffering... death.

...fight your inner fear...
in games... with balls and great weapons. This is legal and wanted.
Posted By: the_clown

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 11:28

Absolutely right. That's why I think that the zombies in games should create real fear. Unstoppable. So make them have real high health amounts laugh
Posted By: Machinery_Frank

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 13:14

Yes, I agree. Following this logic it must be really hard to fight against something so mystic, unstoppable and undead. A boss enemy could be like that. But the usual cannon fodder should be something more simple then.
Posted By: Blattsalat

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/09/09 15:49

vegetarian zombies!
"need more toooofuuuuu...argh!!!"

love em. will always love em. and killing them will make me feel alive.

maybe we like killing them because they remind us about our brainless dayjob coworkers smile

but frank is right. they are by far not new or having a comeback. wanna talk to onc? just call a support hotline of your choice.
but in game they just add this creapy mass effect. this whole horde of enemies attacking you. you feel surrounded, you have to run and shot and kick into any direction.

it just pushed your adrenaline level way up high whenever you see a bunch of them.

cheers
Posted By: Wicht

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/10/09 10:17

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5008331/Rob_Zombie_Living_Dead_Girl

A game with such a soundtrack would be very cool. I like it.
But i dont like such cartoonish games like Monster Mega Mayhem.

I want more hardcore. laugh
Posted By: Zapan@work

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle - 06/10/09 16:26

Stay tuned smile
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