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Detail Flag #93644 10/08/06 19:18 10/08/06 19:18
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands R Roy OP Member
Roy OP Member R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands	Well, i'm creating levels with a6 for a pretty long time now, and i still don't know what the detail flag exactly does. So i tried it. I saw that, when i put the detail flag on, i get two more lines when i build the level: checking detail intersections, intersecting detail blocks (3/15) - recompiling and checking detail intersections (again). The building takes lots more time. So my question is: Can someone please explain me exactly what the detail flag does and the consequenses of setting it on?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Roy] #93645 10/08/06 20:20 10/08/06 20:20
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Hi! From the manual: Quote: Detail: this block does not increase the portal count of the level, as normal blocks do. Detail Blocks can be used for small details in the level, like small pillars, ornaments, rounded arcs or other elements which would otherwise increase the portal count and building time. Because Detail Blocks do not suppress the rendering of the scene behind them, they should not be used for objects that hide much of the level - otherwise they will reduce the frame rate. Do not try using Detail Blocks as level boundaries. Detail blocks must not intersect other blocks. They are only visible in D3D mode, and ignored in 8-bit mode as well as by the collision detection. Detail Blocks can slow down lighting calculations. Standard level building rules still apply (e.g. don�t create a block smaller than 2x2x2 quants). mercuryus

Re: Detail Flag [Re: ] #93646 10/09/06 15:14 10/09/06 15:14
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands R Roy OP Member
Roy OP Member R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands	Quote: this block does not increase the portal count of the level, as normal blocks do. What is the advantage of this?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Roy] #93647 10/09/06 23:02 10/09/06 23:02
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,785 Jesusland Towelie Serious User
Towelie Serious User Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,785 Jesusland	Quote: Detail Blocks can be used for small details in the level, like small pillars, ornaments, rounded arcs or other elements which would otherwise increase the portal count and building time. Basically, I use this general rule: If you can detail flag it, it should be a model. Jimmy died, today, he blew his brains out into the bay, in the state of mind, its my own private suicide. A stitch in time saves nine... what the hell does that mean?!?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Towelie] #93648 10/10/06 18:03 10/10/06 18:03
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands R Roy OP Member
Roy OP Member R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands	so basically the detail flag is meant for entities. (especially models) But you can also put the detail flag on on a block (that was actually where i was talking about). where can you use that for then?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Roy] #93649 10/10/06 19:12 10/10/06 19:12
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,436 Germany, Luebeck Xarthor Expert
Xarthor Expert Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,436 Germany, Luebeck	you cannot assign the detail flag to models. The detail flag is for level geometry (blocks) only, as far as I know. What Towelie meant was: If you have made something out of blocks and assigned the detail flag to it, it would be better to build this as a model with a model app instead.

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Xarthor] #93650 10/10/06 20:12 10/10/06 20:12
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands R Roy OP Member
Roy OP Member R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands	ok, thanks for the explanation. But can you explain me where the portal count exactly is for?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Roy] #93651 10/14/06 14:02 10/14/06 14:02
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands R Roy OP Member
Roy OP Member R Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 206 The Netherlands	Is there only a connection between the portal count and the frames per second, or is there something else, the portal count does?

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Roy] #93652 10/17/06 22:23 10/17/06 22:23
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 433 The Netherlands T Toon Senior Member
Toon Senior Member T Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 433 The Netherlands	yea i would really like to know this too!

Re: Detail Flag [Re: Toon] #93653 11/29/06 00:14 11/29/06 00:14
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CBSection31 Member C Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 131	Sorry for bumping an old topic, but I would like to know if there is any advantage to using detail blocks, as well. For instance, if you are using blocks with the texture flag set to NONE to cast shadows, the manual says to mark it as detail. Does this help the framerate in any way?