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quick question about graphic cards #112001
02/15/07 00:15
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If I made a game with shaders, put it on a disc, and ran it on a PC that only had the default graphics card what would happen? Would I get an error message? would the game be slower? would the effects just not show?


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: Sharx] #112002
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Depends on the computer...

And what do you mean by default graphics card? Most newer computers have high-end graphics cards by default.


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: xXxGuitar511] #112003
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not necessarily, a lot of computers have integrated graphics cards, actually most of them do, now most new GAMING computers have high end graphics cards. as far as the shaders go, you need to work around it, there is a command in 3dgs that returns the shader version that that card has, you just would put an if statement saying if graphics card has shader model x, then run shader x, else use default shading.

Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: lostclimate] #112004
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d3d_shaderversion


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: lostclimate] #112005
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oh I see. So I have to tell 3DGS to use a shader IF their card supports it, otherwise use no shader. Makes sense. Just asking out of curiousity, if I didn't use that code then would I get an error message?

xXxGuitar511 - I meant an intergrated graphics card, my bad.


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: xXxGuitar511] #112006
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if it's a GPU even below the dx7 level, you'll get a d3d_initialization xyz error and the game won't start.

Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: broozar] #112007
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I really don't know much about the integrated graphics cards, so I don't know their capabilities. It will need to support DX9 and whatever shader version u are using (Probably VSPS 2.0)


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: broozar] #112008
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oh okay, it's a dx9 though. And I think integrated graphic cards don't support shaders period.


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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: Sharx] #112009
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Quote:

oh okay, it's a dx9 though. And I think integrated graphic cards don't support shaders period.




Not always, newer integrated graphics cards sometimes do support shaders. By the way, things are changing anyway, looking at the near future plans of Intel;

Meanwhile ATI Technologies and Nvidia Corp., both leading suppliers of standalone graphics processors, are doing their best to introduce high-performance graphics processing units that are compliant with DirectX 10 next-generation application programming interface, Intel Corp., who is leading supplier of built-in graphics cores, may introduce a cost-effective solution that boasts with at least some DirectX 10 capabilities already this year.

Several slides, which presumably come from a roadmap of Intel Corp., that have been published over HKEPC web-site suggest that Intel’s forthcoming G965 chipset will have a built-in graphics core that not only supports DirectX 9.0 shader model 3.0, but also will have DirectX 10 shader model 4.0 functionality. In case the information is correct, this may be the first time for Intel Corp. to offer the latest multimedia functionality with its integrated graphics cores.


A random link with some info:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/...pict198153.html

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Re: quick question about graphic cards [Re: PHeMoX] #112010
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yeah, there are some integrated cards that do offer shaders, like my friend just got a coumputer with an itegrated.... i think nvidia 6600? i dont remember but i looked it up when he first got it, and apparently it was the first integrated card to support sm3

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