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More documentation and samples #140192
07/09/07 11:08
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The A7 engine are very powerfull, but are how a computer
without operating system

I renember the manual for the AMSTRAD CPC 128 (Yes I old)
the best I see in all my life

Every command have a sample code you can reproduce in the computer the old pdf manual of DOUG was great but I not see more

I know now are making new thinks (Templates A7 "The same of A6?", IA and anymore) but the manual is very simple

The AUM is a very good sample of what can be the manual of gamestudio

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Felixsg] #140193
07/09/07 21:28
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I agree TOTALLY :

A7 is growing each time with each BETA,
Conitec or some volounter should do a little lines example of code
'why not one or two pictures) for each new command.
The manual can't follow simultaneously.

I don't know perhaps in paralell with BETA section a MANUAL called
BETA MANUAL should be done ???

I think all new users perhaps will only see the surface of 3DGS and will miss last beta features wihtout them in a manual.

a beta feature can take some months , but putting some documentation for it can take one hour maximum

Another point , documentation for use of new tools, features perhaps ?

Last edited by TheExpert; 07/09/07 21:30.
Re: More documentation and samples [Re: TheExpert] #140194
07/09/07 22:23
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beta is not meant for normal use. if you're interested in new features, you should have a look at the beta pages. i think it's not necessary to update a manual for features which mithg change in near future. work should be put into more important tasks.

joey.

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Joey] #140195
07/09/07 22:56
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So i just hope the manuel to be really up to date ??

And like said some little lines of codes or little example showing
each command would be great ? perhaps in the Script manual ?

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: TheExpert] #140196
07/10/07 06:38
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As for the PUBLIC beta I should expect to see the new features in the manual, but they are not.


I like to keep scripting simple, life is hard enough as it is.
Regards,
Frits
Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Frits] #140197
07/10/07 07:26
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Piece of advice: Better look into a manual before complaining about it... Of course the manual is up to date and all features come with examples. Hint: there's a search function.

Felixsq: Manual quality is very important, but a manual is a reference only and can't be as extensive as a magazine or tutorial. However, if you have a problem to find or understand something in particular, or found a mistake or insufficient explanation, please post to the manual forum.

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Felixsg] #140198
07/10/07 10:02
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Thanks for answer
but I not have complaint with the manual
is only a future suggestion.
For a beginer If try to write any of the codes of the manual
directly to a program that not work

The manual of the AMSTRAD come with every command and with
a source code can run by sample. And explain every process very clean inclusive for one never program. And if true not other manual I see are how that.

The new manual of GStudio are better than before. But think only need code samples for make perfect

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Felixsg] #140199
07/10/07 10:17
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Yes, my piece of advice was not meant for you. Still, I suggest that you post on the manual forum when something particular is missing or some sample is not helpful. I know that it would be better when samples were complete programs, rather than only a few code lines. But this would mean that I spend almost as much time with documentation as with programming the feature, meaning less new features for the engine. The manual is a compromise, but I think a good one.

Re: More documentation and samples [Re: jcl] #140200
07/10/07 12:09
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I think the manual is very good for some functions (e.g. as a reference, to search for specific functions), but it is not the right thing, if you want to print all the pages and read them like a normal book.
So i guess the main point is that there is actually no easy-to-read introduction which covers the most important parts. Of course there are some books, but they are just introductions. There is an advanteged book missing, but i guess this isn´t a task for "our" manual, but for an author.
Besides, i this question has been discussed a few times before, though a real solution never occured.


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Re: More documentation and samples [Re: Thracian] #140201
07/10/07 13:04
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I think if there are working example for each/group of command is very helpful.

I still remember the FoxPro 1.0 help/manual, all the commands have a working example which make the learning very efficient.

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