Well i own A6.60 commercial version.
like it a lot indeed , and use it again now


Well this topic , is only to say if 3DGS people have some good picture of Next Gen things , little things they could post it here.
Also why not screens of new panels ? don't know if A7 have a panel editor for shaders ? think no ...?

Caus we see nothing about Next Gen and editors , i know A7 is very slowly
progressing ...
but if people can post something about new workflow, next gen shaders , effects
it could be cool i think.

now perhaps it's a bad idea , caus A7 is not ready at all

There is no sense in this.. A7 is not "next gen" (compared to some commercial AAA "nextgen" engines) and if you want to see how A7 works -> try the trial.

The topic is next gen "workflow", so we need to identify what is next gen workflow first.

For that matter, what is Old Gen workflow?
Personally, I didn't think the workflow in A7 is any different than A6, just different/better tools...

To me as former A5 user I can't see much differnce - except that A7 supports Lite-C. It's still noticeable that Lite-C support is not perfectly integrated yet. Just take a look at SED. The code jumper will only detect "action" and "function" but not "void" or the like...

Can anyone delete this topic ?

HeelX I kinda of agree with your point. So let's ignore "next-Gen" and just try to improve our understanding of what Conitec is planning for A7 tools/work flow in the future.

I believe Conitec does its best to get feedback from the beta testers but I think if things were discussed openly with the community earlier we might avoid things like what happened with the shader editor or at least realise that it needed re-thinking sooner.

Conitec should be forced to finish one small game from scratch to gold to see where the gs workflow problems are.

There is tons of stuff that makes the production unnecessary slow. In combination with missing exporters/importers this makes you cry out at least once a day. you cant move your sollution to another toolset, because the lack of interaction between gs and anything else.


i would recommend a hand in hand cooperation between conitec and a small development team on a small game.
this would increase the workflow dramaticly.
plus both could sell the game afterwards for a few extra bucks

cheers

I support the idea of Blattsalat. Making a decent game (providing indoor and outdoor scenes with modern rendering techniques) can help to recognize the problems and missing features very good.

Some users of this community could be willing to enter such a team. The result could be amazing:
- a little game for showcasing the engine (tech demo, sample project)
- a finished game as a reference-project for some of the members
- a new improved engine and tool-set

Best regards,
Frank