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3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] #165515
11/03/07 18:45
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These guys were the second lot following on from 3DState who pioneered 3D websites and 3D browser games.

It would help if you still have your old reg number as the free reg number page doesnt seem to be accessable.

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: Nems] #165516
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Well too much expensive and not real complete 3D engine in my taste.
Good for visualization, simple games.

Commercial license price: $899

Ahahahhaa , i would directly by Unity Engine that is far far far from that simple only 3D engine !!

Let's forget it !
Now do like you want if you're multi millionaire and have lot of money
to waste

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: TheExpert] #165517
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Yes as a game engine, it leaves a little more to be desired but as a web browswer game engine, its unbeatable.

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: Nems] #165518
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Hummmm ...

Unity Web Browser demo island

Once again Unity wins easy against 3D State !
this demo contains terrain , shaders (water ,wind , multi texture ...) , very efficient mesh instancing ....

Show me soem as complete and good as this one in 3D State ?

And Unity has something 3D state lacks a lot :
complete World editor for terrain, level , shaders to aplly etc .. etc ...

Why advertising such poor outdated tool
Sorry if you have some benefits on each sell of it , but it is very bad for that price , when you can for same price offer Unity that is not
comparable

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: TheExpert] #165519
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Too much stuff to load up.

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: Nems] #165520
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sorry but it has loaded in some seconds in my PC !
Anyone today has ADSL (not all but a lot).

If you're blind to don't see all the friendly tools Unity have compared to the very simple 3D state that is same price (too much expensive for how simple it is )

Well advertise it if you want ....i'm not blind or idiot to buy it.

Well i stop here !

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: TheExpert] #165521
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I think your just too narrow focused on wow graphics and not enough on generalised distribution but I like it as I have extensively tested it over the years it was operating before fading out.
I could have content up online in 5 minutes after creation and looking good with playable code, I cant do that with any comparitive software.

There are many more browser based engines and like unity, they are all over kill, designed to get the WOW factor lovers cash

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: Nems] #165522
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I think your just too narrow focused on wow graphics
I think in Next Gen ones, and Unity brings them and can handle big scenes even on a web browser with their engine.

it was operating before fading out.
So why celebrating it , if you recognize their are for such price lot lot better ones with all tools like Unity , or DX Studio ?

I could have content up online in 5 minutes after creation and looking good with playable code
Once again for simple scene , or games why not ?
There are a lot for free : so you'll pay 900$ just to throw simple things on a web browser ?
And without world editor and scene management it's far from a complete game engine for today next gen games !

There are many more browser based engines and like unity, they are all over kill
False , runs very smooth and fast on my web browser and load in some seconds !
For 900$ i'll put them on Unity with iincomparable tools , world editor or less in DX Studio.Without world editor it's a nightmare to create a scene and place characters etc ...

there is also big others better ones :
Deep Creator
Quest 3D
Don't compare to them for 900$ 3D state is stolen money !

Well good chance to find idiots to spend 900$ on such simple engine compared to
the existing others !

Change the title of the topic by :
BAck in business in next two years after having world/terrain/shader editors/physics etc ...

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Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: TheExpert] #165523
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No, you need to look at what I am actually saying here and not pushing your point so hard.
All other competitors require seriouse programming and time, 3D1 app only requires familiarity.
The difference, A 3D browser game or website can be produced faster and will perform for all graphic cards type that support 3D acceleration.

Competitors to this product require advanced graphics cards, memory and programming skills.
Do you think the majority here has those capabilities?

In my research, the majority of computer based users do not own a system capable of utilising advanced graphics, this is generally for hard core cutting edge graphics people who have the money to not only buy but update.

(You can get research user info base from population statistics in any country)

It seems backwards to me to apply development on a system that limits your user base.

Re: 3D1 back in business [3Dstate Morphit engine] [Re: Nems] #165524
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Hummm ....
3D state have evolved and support all next gen shaders and it's a selling point for it ,so why saying 3D state is for 10 years all computers ?

Today you even find engines not doing graphics under shaders V2.0 caus even
shader V2 cards od not exist any more if you buy a low cost graphic card.

Quest 3D is no programming at all and has graphic components to simulate programming : even more easy than 3D state programming for a 3D artist.

Well ok : 3D state is poor compared to others competitors a,d i find scandalous to give 900$ for commercial use for such limited thing

What are you doing today ?
a game project or nothing ?

Show us a big demo of 3D State that will convince us to don't buy Unity or Quest 3D !


And a demo of some world editor and terrain editor ??

Well keep sleeping and dreaming of old games without shaders.
(today any new game even if not AAA have shaders , even games made with Ogre3D engine and that sold in all countries in AAA state) !

Hummm ...

So the final features for 3D state are :
- you need a programmin language (don't need in Quest 3D engine)
and Unity is as easy to program as 3D state.
- old graphics , no shaders
- little scenes, no complex objects or world caus it uses very little memory
(when today computer is selled with a graphics card having better than
shaders V2.0)
- be confindent in statistics : when there are millions of selled next gen
games like Gears of War , or PS3 that is becoming selling well depsite the
high price : Don't think your statistics means something
- pay 900$ when you can have lot more advanced ?? Be Blind and buy 3D state !

ahhhhaaa

let me laught , you go Nowhere
And forget 3D state and 3D engines : have you a real project game ?

A clone of pong playing on a web browser ?

Well i stop here it's becoming too ridiculous ahahaha

Continue comparing a 10 years old car with a today one at same price ,
and saying people will prefer the old 10 years old hhahaaaaa

I think your thread is a big joke only ahhhaa

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