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DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] #193981
02/21/05 04:18 02/21/05 04:18

Joined: Sep 2003
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DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german]

Note: This demo is not the official demo, more of a small presentation to the 3dgs community. Official demo will be released on VERY SOON with completely different levels and fixed bugs.

English:

ROMAC STUDIOS is proud to announce their first game
ACTION BIRD� -
A 3d Action/Adventure Game with puzzling levels full of action at all times, suitble for all ages.
(www.romacstudios.com)

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About:

Control the destiny of an entire kingdom. The bird kingdom is at risk of being destroyed and it is up to you to once more prove yourself! You must win the Action Bird contests to keep the Bird Kingdom on its feet!
Your name is Jet, you are no simple bird, you are no simple duck - you are the one and only leader, the one and only Action Bird.
You will be fighting your way through exciting trials:
The Trial of Strength
- 8 large, exciting, nicely detailed levels!
- Great gameplay movements: Jump through great obstacles, climb or even monkey swing.
- Fight over 20 enemies!
The Trial of Speed
- 10 levels full of obstacles and challenges!
- Realistic physics that will keep you thinking about every next move you're going to make.
The Trial of Intellect
- 15 challenging puzzles

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Features:

- Stunning graphics using latest technology shader effects to engage the eyes of the players.
- Easy to control and fun gameplay.
- Beautiful instrumental scores giving a great feel to the game!
- Enjoy 3 complete original game modes with over 30 action packed levels!
- Hours and hours of stunning action.
- Enjoy great visual quality and smooth gameplay even with lower system specifications.
- Suitable for all ages!
- And much more...

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Release date of demo:
Today!

URL of demo:
http://romac-beta.xixao3d.com/download/demo/Setup.exe
~135 mb

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Feedback is always nice (www.romacstudios.com)
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Contacting ROMAC STUDIOS:
Email: Guy@RomacStudios.com / ThePerfectRomac@Hotmail.com
MSN Email: ThePerfectRomac@Hotmail.com

With Best Regards,
The Action Bird Team.

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German:

ROMAC STUDIOS ist erfreut ihnen deren erstes Spiel zu pr�sentieren
ACTION BIRD� -
Ein 3D Action/Adventure spiel mit Knobel Levels voller Action zu jedem Zeitpunkt, geeignet f�r jedes Alter.
(www.romacstudios.com)

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�ber Action Bird:

Kontrollieren sie das Schicksal eines ganzen K�nigreiches. Das K�nigreich der V�gel l�uft Risiko zerst�rt zu werden und es liegt an ihnen sich ein weiteres
mal zu beweisen! Sie m�ssen den Action Bird Wettbewerb gewinnen um das K�nigreich der V�gel auf den Beinen zu halten!
Ihr Name ist Jet, sie sind kein einfacher Vogel, keine einfache Ente - ihr seid der einzigartige Meister!, der einzige Action Bird.
Sie werden sich den weg durch verschiedene aufregende Pr�fungen k�mpfen:
Die Pr�fung der St�rke
- 8 gro�e, aufregende, wundersch�ne detaillierte Levels!
- Gro�e Vielfalt an moves: Springen sie �ber gro�e Hindernisse, klettern oder schwingen sie sich wie ein Affe.
- Bek�mpfen sie �ber 20 Feinde!!
Die Pr�fung der Geschwindigkeit
- 10 Levels voller Hindernisse und Herausforderungen!
- Realistische Physik die sie �ber jeden ihrer n�chsten schritte nachdenken lassen wird.
Die Pr�fung des Intellekt
- 15 herausfordernde Puzzle

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Features:

- Umwerfende Grafik durch das benutzen der neusten Shader Technologie um die Augen des Spielers ausfallen lassen werden.
- Einfache Steuerung und viel spa�.
- Wundersch�ne Instrumentelle Musik Untermalung die ein wunderbares Spielgef�hl vermittelt!
- Genie�en sie 3 originelle Spiel-Modi mit �ber 30 Action bepackten Levels!
- Stunden um stunden erstaunlicher Action.
- Genie�ens sie sch�ne Grafik und ein fl�ssiges gameplay selbst auf Low-End Systemen.
- Geeignet f�r jedes Alter!
- Und viel mehr...

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Erscheinungsdatum der Demoversion:
Heute!

URL zur Demoversion:
http://romac-beta.xixao3d.com/download/demo/Setup.exe
~135 mb

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Feedback ist immer erw�nscht (www.romacstudios.com)
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Kontaktieren sie ROMAC STUDIOS:
Email: Guy@RomacStudios.com / ThePerfectRomac@Hotmail.com
MSN Email: ThePerfectRomac@Hotmail.com

Mit freundlichen Gr��en,
Das Action Bird Team.

Super Slam Ball - now only $9.98 Super Slam Ball on Gamespot.com!

45 Comments

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: DavidLancaster] #194001 02/21/05 15:03 02/21/05 15:03
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 862 Australia DavidLancaster User
DavidLancaster User Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 862 Australia	A few things I noticed: -At the end of an attack animation Jet jerks to a stand animation. It would look better if you blended the end of the attack animation to the stand animation. -The ball in the speed trial. If you roll slowly up to a wall, then as you touch it hold down W for a second then press jump. You'll jump much much higher than you usually do. -In the credits what on earth is that duck lady doing? Anyway, some of the panels that show peoples' names are not transparent and have a black background when displayed.

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: DavidLancaster] #194002 02/21/05 19:21 02/21/05 19:21
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,174 Israel, Haifa ROMAC OP Expert
ROMAC OP Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,174 Israel, Haifa	The way we'll resolve these issues: 1) Make the camera entity smaller, this will let it not get stuck on certain objects when panning. 2) Bring the camera closer to the player, this will let you move more freely without having the camera go on a wall even in a narrow alley. 3) Get rid of the fighting in the game, it's too much time consuming, and so we've decided to just have the game full of traps and obstacles you must avoid, and perhaps enemies throwing traps. One camera flaw can ruin the whole fun... the point of the village was just to give you some eye candy, and no gameplay... in the official demo release you will get much more. I'd like to hear more feedback to see what else we can change. So far the main problem was the camera but that can be easily fixed. Keep in mind for all of you that expected an absolutely amazing game that we're trying to fit 3 games in 1 which is pretty hard to do, but thanks to your comments we'll manage to bring it as close to your expectations as possible. Super Slam Ball - now only $9.98 Super Slam Ball on Gamespot.com!

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: ROMAC] #194003 02/21/05 23:06 02/21/05 23:06
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen Uhrwerk Expert
Uhrwerk Expert Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen	Well, i played the demo and there are som points that really made me mad: The controls are - I must damit here with Blattsalat - horrible. Exspecially when controlling the ball. After the ball falls for 137th time in the water there is simply no motivation to play any further. Even the controls in the pusszle part are not good. They are much to slow and indirect. The duck turns to slow to the place wanted. And why are boxes marked, that do not exist in the game when turning towards them? Motivation is a second point. Why should I direct a ball to find three coins? There is simply no reason to act so. Give the player a reason why he should do so. The same with the puzzles. Why sould Action bird solve them. There is noch background story, therefore there is no motivation. The tasks seem like artificial barrieres done by the designers in order to keep some time before the extro runs over the screen. Well, the camera was critized enough I think, you should know what to improve. Why are there three parts in the game. Looks to me like a collection of games. I miss the element that binds them together and makes them ONE game. The levels are easy to get lost in them. Why are the walls all so close to each other. That doesn't make sense. A minor point. The Landscape at the mainmenu is bright, but the sky looks as it was night, that doesn't fit. I got stuck here. Couldnt move any further. Positive: Very nice music, candy for the ears Good animations Last edited by Zeitwerk; 02/21/05 23:08. Always learn from history, to be sure you make the same mistakes again...

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: Uhrwerk] #194004 02/22/05 05:10 02/22/05 05:10
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,174 Israel, Haifa ROMAC OP Expert
ROMAC OP Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,174 Israel, Haifa	For those of you who'd like to play the village level a bit more easily and are experienced with 3dgs do the following: Go to the folder where you installed the game. Go into fcams.wdl, search for zoom_factor = 500; Change the value of zoom_factor to 200. Now make a wmp, add the script ActionBirdDemo.wdl as its main script, run the game, then the village, see if you like the way the camera works any better. Cheers. Super Slam Ball - now only $9.98 Super Slam Ball on Gamespot.com!

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: ROMAC] #194005 02/22/05 09:50 02/22/05 09:50
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen Uhrwerk Expert
Uhrwerk Expert Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen	With a zoomfactor of 200 its much better to play. If you're doin this yourself, as Romac suggested be sure to increase nexus size. However, somer more critcism: After finding the second piece of the medal in action mode the second level loads again and the second piece must be found again. Can be repeated endless. When seeing the duck gets some headache when running against a wall first time I laughed, second time i thought "ok...", after the tenth time i was simpla annoyed because I couldn't move when this happened Last edited by Zeitwerk; 02/22/05 09:51. Always learn from history, to be sure you make the same mistakes again...

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: ROMAC] #194006 02/22/05 14:05 02/22/05 14:05
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,010 analysis paralysis NITRO777 Expert
NITRO777 Expert Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,010 analysis paralysis	Quote: And for gods sake exchange the speakers voice. I dont know if thats supposed to sound funny but its anoying after the 243243th time. No. No exaggeration here. Jeez I guess he really did play it a lot! Anyway I hope you dont feel bad, you have a great game with a ton of potential, I can definately see you making some money on it. So definately keep trying and see it through to the end. Some of the critiique's here are over little details that people other than game developers would never see, some are critique's that are just personal preference, but some are real things that should be fixed. I too was irritated with the speakers voice. Not that your voice actor didnt do a great job, but it just didnt work for me. Your installer was perfect. Your intro screen was cool.perfect. Your main menu screen was perfect. Strength-animations were good, artwork, level design, lighting was saleable, good quality. I agree about the camera and some getting stuck issues. Speed- difficult, now that I understand that it was 10th level it puts it in better perspective, I didnt know that at first. My only suggestion is that you make the "splash" of the ball in the water look a little bigger, the perspective seems to be off. I also agree about the missing action bird in the speed level. It would definately be better if you put the bird in the ball. Intellect-I liked the puzzle. I actually wouldnt change a thing in that department. It had interesting rules, a funny falling and victory animations and was just fun, but I believe you might have spelled cursor wrong in the intro screen to this challenge.(even though undoubtedly this post is full of spelling and grammar errors) So dont let any critic make you skip a beat. You have a good thing going just dont give up. I can really see you making money from this project. Definately.

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: Uhrwerk] #194007 02/22/05 14:21 02/22/05 14:21
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,256 Oz L Locoweed Expert
Locoweed Expert L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,256 Oz	Hi, Ok, here we go. Likes: Sound and Music - great. Levels - great. Visual - great. Panels - great. Witty Level - pretty darn cool. Strength Level: - very nice visually Dislikes: Controls - could use some work, a bit hard to move Action Bird in certain situations, doesn't feel real smooth. Action Bird gets stuck alot and it takes like a minute or so to figure out to get him unstuck. Camera - It's ok, but could be improved alot. Game Play - realizing that this is not the real demo, I will just mention that you will need to explain why Action Bird is doing what he is doing better. Also, I wasn't sure what keys did some actions by just reading the pre-game window that popped up. In the Witty level I spent alot of time trying to move Action Bird with cursor keys, mouse_left, etc, only to have him stand there. Although those explaination windows are nice. Speed Level: Much too frustrating, has anyone ever got that ball across the bridge? I mean, dude, that was zero fun. It kind of reminded me of when I go golfing and every ball I hit ends up in the water hazard so I just drive the golf cart around drinking beer. Overall the game has alot of potential. Many things in game exceed anything I have seen done with 3DGS, unfornately the demo just didn't really seem to keep my attention because there didn't seem to be a flow to the game. I think if you change the controls and camera a bit so it feels more natural it will drastically change the overall feel of the game. I spent too much time trying to move where I wanted to go. I imagine there will be a good story line so I wont say much about that. I may have sounded a bit critical, but I really like the game and I think you need to address these areas to take Action Bird to the next level. Loco Professional A8.30 Spoils of War - East Coast Games

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: Locoweed] #194008 02/22/05 23:22 02/22/05 23:22
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 74 Louisiana, USA kelly_b_c Junior Member
kelly_b_c Junior Member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 74 Louisiana, USA	The only comment I have to offer that I haven't seen mentioned so far is about the intellect level. It would be nice if there was some indicator to show where all the gates are when they are lowered. The way it is now, you have to remember where all of the gates are located. It could be as simple as a green line on the block showing where the green gates are after they have been lowered. The puzzle game was very cool otherwise.

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: kelly_b_c] #194009 02/24/05 01:08 02/24/05 01:08
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,924 Finland Ambassador Serious User
Ambassador Serious User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,924 Finland	After 7 hours of download I got to play the demo. And I admit that I had REALY big expectatios for the game. So here it goes... Graphics - Graphics are okay over the 3DGS User average but the graphics are realy not the nowadays so called "good" graphics. And the background it the puzzle game was not very good and with my bros comp it flashed weirdly. Some of the textures could have been bigger and richer - - more dirt and stuff. Controls/Gameplay - Okay now we come to the real part of the game. The controlls were difficult to handle and the camera was not too good. You have to move the mouse way too much if you want to get the camera to the right direction. And as said the camera gets stuck to places very often. And the game play in the ball level was very VERY difficult. I admit that I fell ove 20 times in a row to teh same place. And the camera was too close. It is too diffivult to see what is waiting for you next becouse the camera was so close. And the physics were too "realistic". Some places the ball bounces like a rocket to the wrong direction. Level design - The level design was a bit boring. The hallways very too tight and narrow. That gives the feel of trying to get away from the level to the player. And in some places our poos bird gets stuck to some weird models... Models - The models were above average. They vere nice to look and easy to relate to. I especialy liked the ball! Sounds - Man.... I hate when that guy is laughing to me the 100 time... Music - The heart of the feel... The musics very very good though not so modernish as I would call game music these days. The compositions vere very nice and good to listen. But the music didn't fit to the game at all. It was too heroic and too movie like. The music fit to the ball level a little better than the other levels. 2d Graphics - Nice but I noticed some funny looking dots at some places. Some of the 2d art didn't fir perfectly to the levels and some panels vere a little over the top colored. ( Strong colors used ) My personal opinion - This game could be competing with other average indie games. I apologise if I was too harsh or used bad language or if I made someone sad...

Re: DEMO: ACTION BIRD - feedback [english/german] [Re: Ambassador] #194010 02/24/05 01:44 02/24/05 01:44
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,821 NewYork, USA light_mystic Senior Developer
light_mystic Senior Developer Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,821 NewYork, USA	Quote: I apologise if I was too harsh or used bad language or if I made someone sad... Of course not! We need postive critism to make the game even better. We are located on the Game Studio Download page under the category of services. Please come and visit the site. We Design professional Level Design, Models, and Textures. Level Design Dreams, LLC

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