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How do you make a flash site? #211590
06/17/08 12:58
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Can you make it within normal html coding or do you need dreamweaver or frontpage?

In other words I want to make a flash site because I have recently bought flash, but I want to make the website in the most inexspensive way possible.

Any ideas?

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: NITRO777] #211600
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You dont need Dreamweaver. Or GoLive, Frontpage and so on...
You can make a complete website with Flash.

Export your Flash-Movie and Flash will generate a HTML-File for you.

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: NITRO777] #211601
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I would expect that you most probably have an example of a flash site within the bundle of flash...

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: Pappenheimer] #211604
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I would expect that you most probably have an example of a flash site within the bundle of flash...
Yes. I got flash with production premium so I have been very overwhelmed with all the software to dig through, I have only fired up flash a few times and yes there appears to be templates, but Im such a newbie at the program that I would not recognize anything. grin

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You dont need Dreamweaver. Or GoLive, Frontpage and so on...
You can make a complete website with Flash.

Export your Flash-Movie and Flash will generate a HTML-File for you.
Really?! Oh thanks for the help. So I can make sites that embed movies and flash content all within flash? Thats excellent.

So why then would anyone need dreamweaver, golive, or frontpage?

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: NITRO777] #211608
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It is hard to create a forum with Flash. In this case i would use HTML,XML and CSS.

The Advantage of Flash is... you have the same design on each browser and OS.
Browser-Compatibility is a foreign word for Flash.

If required... Flash can also handle MySQL-Connections.

I love such sites.
http://www.unrealtournament3.com/de/index.html

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: Wicht] #211626
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wow. That is an excellent site and an excellent-looking website(I also would like to play that game)... Are you saying that the entire site like that could be made only with flash?

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: NITRO777] #211627
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yes, but there are some things that can't be made in flash.


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Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: Blade280891] #211630
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make flash-only websites and earn the hatred of people with slow internet connections, slow PCs, the open source world, people who hate waiting, people who just need to inform themselves about a certain topic and don't need all the audio and eye candy, people with flash block enabled, etc.

flash is an entertainment format, never forget that. so for a site like ut3 it may be ok. i would never design a professional company website with flash only.

always offer an html alternative.

flash sites are a nightmare to update compared to the simplicity of a php/mysql-driven cms. flashsites are bad for search engines. flash sites are bad for photo albums. flash sites are bad for text. flash sites are bad. really. they suck. flash videos and applications like games are cool. but it's not a web technology you should use on a regular basis for home pages.

Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: broozar] #211639
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make flash-only websites and earn the hatred of people with slow internet connections, slow PCs, the open source world, people who hate waiting, people who just need to inform themselves about a certain topic and don't need all the audio and eye candy, people with flash block enabled, etc.
Let me just address some things here, I am not angry at all, really, but let me just give you my viewpoint. You have accurately described the thinking of some people on the net, but most people are sheep, and thats why open source will never get any widespread appeal-no widespread appeal == no money for you(or me as the case may be)

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earn the hatred of people with slow internet connections
too bad, Im also not going to make a game to fit someone's crap video card.

The thing is we force people to get a better internet connection, this kind of pressure is good for everyone, more people angry about slow connections, the faster connections they get.

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slow PCs
same thing. Stop crying and get a real pc. Dont have the money? Get a job, join the world! This is good pressure because it causes people to get off their butts and make something of themselves.

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the open source world
People wasting their time on inferior products, they are trying to save a sinking a boat.

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people who hate waiting
Same thing, Get a real computer! Get a real connection, then you dont have to wait! If your area is too rural,..move out! You have to determine if you want to live on a farm or if you want to plug in with the rest of the world.

Either way, technology will be serving everyone with a decent connection soon.

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people who just need to inform themselves about a certain topic and don't need all the audio and eye candy
Most people are stupid and they dont care about being informed, they have an attention span of about 30 seconds, so once again our math formula works: widespread appeal==more money for you

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people with flash block enabled
they are just paranoid, overall your safe with flash on.


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always offer an html alternative.

I agree, it does make sense.


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flash sites are a nightmare to update compared to the simplicity of a php/mysql-driven cms.
that I dont know about, thats something I am going to have to learn, sounds right to me.


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flashsites are bad for search engines
Excellent point, reinforces your idea about offering the html alternative.


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flash sites are bad for photo albums
I wonder why, I liked the screenshot gallery in the u3 site that was posted...


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flash videos and applications like games are cool. but it's not a web technology you should use on a regular basis for home pages.
Well Im interested in a lot of new cutting edge capabilities, and from an artists point of view(I know you are also an artist) flash makes a lot of visualizations possible, this is a newsletter I got from adobe, check it out:

flash new tech (especially I recommend the flash 'get out and play')

But hey, dont get me wrong, I appreciate the opinion, I really do. I was sort of a socialist myself a few years back, so I understand the 'purists' mind-set, but to me most of it is just a waste of time, Id rather put pressure on the market rather than screw around with the intricasies of some dying technology.



Re: How do you make a flash site? [Re: NITRO777] #211641
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Lynda.com has some excellent video tutorials and it is about $25 for one month unlimited access. A couple more listed here http://stormvisions.com/pages/links/flash.php I would recommend you don't build a 'Flash' site or an 'HTML' site. Build a 'functional' site. In other words decide what the site is about, what type of content will you show and then build the site using whatever combination of Flash, HTML, PHP or whatever makes sense to best present your content. My personal preference for a content site is some sort of CMS to be the back bone and some Flash to add a bit of whiz-bang.


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