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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: NITRO777] #264660
05/07/09 13:04
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Originally Posted By: NITRO777
Why? Because console gaming has been killing the game industry since the ps2.


No, this is not the reason. Here you can find an article by the name: "The PC is Rapidly Becoming the Largest Gaming Platform "
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58497

The reason are the online channels. The PC is just more flexible and entered some new markets. Boxed products are not the future.

But what happened to 3d Realms? we can only guess. Maybe too many managers, no milestones, bad project management?


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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Machinery_Frank] #264684
05/07/09 14:29
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But what happened to 3d Realms? we can only guess. Maybe too many managers, no milestones, bad project management?


There's only one reason; no more financial investors. 3DRealms used to be as independent as corporately possible :P , especially after the success of Max Payne (2001) combined with the previous 3DRealms games, they were easily able to develop for years without any additional investors. Those early 5 very happy years have ended about 4 years ago I think, meaning they've mainly been dependent on financial investors for the last few years. I'm guessing with the economic crisis and all, they just couldn't get anyone to invest in a product with such a notorious name within the industry.

Again, it's a very very sad day. I'm hoping some publisher will give the game yet another chance though. Prey was good, Duke Nukem 3D was awesome and even Duke Nukem Manhattan Project was great fun to play, however much it had budget-game written all over. By the looks of the 2001 trailer and the 2009 trailer, the game has come a long way.

Even if skeptics (read:ex-employees) always have claimed these trailers were demos to showcase the game idea that existed on paper only, meaning no real levels were made, no real gameplay even existed. I sure hope this ain't true as it would support yet another conspiracy theory involving Epic and 3Drealms Unreal engine support,

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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: PHeMoX] #264690
05/07/09 14:51
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Ich denke, dass das aus von 3D-Realms erheblich mit dem nicht erschienenen Duke Nukem Forever zu tun hat.

Ich meine, ich persönlich warte schon darauf, seit es DUKE3D gab. Wie oft wurde denn der Termin verschoben? Wie viel Geld hat ein Investor in die Firma gesteckt und kein Release bekommen? Wie oft wurde denn die Engine gewechselt.

Ich finde es schade. Gerade Spiele wie Duke, Shadow Warrior oder Max Payne waren sehr sehr gute Spiele. 3D-Realms hatte aber einen Milestone. Der Bullet Time Effect von Max Payne 2 z.B.

Naja. R.I.P 3D-Realms. Ich hoffe irgendjemand erbarmt sich und gibt nochmal Geld. (Wir könnten es wie die Star Trek Fans machen, die Geld gespendet hatten, damit Paramount nochmal ein paar Folgen drehen konnten^^)


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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Schmerzmittel] #264696
05/07/09 15:28
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Sehr schade, wirklich. Vor ein paar Monaten noch waren ja Spielszenen aus Duke Nukem Forever zu sehen, in so einer amerikanischen Spielesendung (hab gerade den Namen vergessen).
Da war das Statement noch "es existiert wirklich", Hoffnung kam auf...
Zu schade.
R.I.P 3D-Realms.

Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: the_clown] #264701
05/07/09 15:50
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Ist echt schade, Duke Nukem war auch der erste Shooter den ich je spielte. Und dann stundenweise im Multiplayer...

Aber irgendwie kommts nicht ganz so unterwartet für mich. Wer eine Marke wie Duke Nukem so lange herumliegen lässt oder dann so halbherzig mal wieder was meldet, kann einfach über längere Zeit nicht bestehen. Ich will denen ja keine Absicht unterstellen, aber wie das über Jahre so ablaufen kann, ist schon etwas verdächtig.
Aber fertig ist's mit Duke Nukem ja nicht, die Rechte gehn jetzt an Take 2.

In Sachen Max Payne. Dieses Games würde ich jetzt eher Remedy anrechnen als 3D Realms. Obwohl klar, die waren die Producer, aber so richtig etwas das an Duke Nukem anknüpfen könnte ist von 3D Realms einfach nie gekommen, und die Frage nach dem warum wird ja jetzt vielleicht mal beantwortet...

Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Hitsch] #264716
05/07/09 18:45
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Uhm ... if the thread began in English, it needs to continue in English (as a courtesy).

Yes, it is a sad day, indeed. Good-bye, Duke!


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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Dan Silverman] #264723
05/07/09 19:47
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Thank you dan, it does say in the forum rules


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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Blade280891] #264761
05/08/09 00:31
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"The PC is Rapidly Becoming the Largest Gaming Platform "
Sure now it is, and for good reason, the pc has more potential than the console, but console gaming and the influx of the moronic casual games has killed many a good title.

Gaming itself is still going down the tubes because of them, I don't need any article of yours to prove it, I can simply look at what the market has to offer.

Every wasted dime on console games could be put into pc games and therefore produce better competition on the superior platform. Its just basic Darwinian economics.

I blame consoles and all the little boys that play them for the loss of dear Duke Nukem forever and precious prey 2. cry

As you said now instead of duke nukem forever it is duke nukem NEVER frown

Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: NITRO777] #264763
05/08/09 00:45
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after the success of Max Payne (2001)

Since when has Max Payne been 3D Realms game? All these years believing that Remedy was behind it...


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Re: 3d realms is dead, forget about the duke being forever [Re: Cowabanga] #264769
05/08/09 03:04
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Wow, that was unexpected....no really....totally unexpected....pfffff


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