Hello all,

I have a slight problem with the sun in the brand new edition A7.7. It's really weird so I am just going to describe what I have:

1) a simple room with the texture skywhite of standard.wad applied to its walls (so "sky" flag)

2) a camera

3) a block in the middle of the room, with the default brick texture with its "shaded" flag on.

When I compile the map with the default settings for the builder, the sun and the ambient settings, I get what I should get: the block nicely lit and shaded by the light of the sun, with the proper color and angle of the sun, sitting in the middle of a room.

But when I change the color of the sun away from the default values of (150,150,150), then the compiler displays the message "no lights, so skip direct lighting", "Radisoity disabled" (this is not a typo btw), and it does not compute any light map: I get the unlit block in the middle of the room.

I did quite a bit of experimenting, and any time I set sun color away from even distribution of red, green and blue (e.g. 0,0,255 or 0,255,255), then I get the same message and no lighting. As long as snulight is a tone of grey, then the cube is lighted with radiosity.

All I see in the manual is a mention about a bug fix where ambient and sun color need to be about the same tone. This does not seem to help here (setting the ambient color does not fix the problem).

What am I doing wrong? Has anybody encountered the same problem?

Thomas

I cant see anything wrong.

When you say "with the default settings for the builder", do you mean you are
hitting the compilers "Default Build" button?
Or are you assuming the compilers setting are at default?

Try hitting the "Default Build" button with both Sun and Ambient values at
RGB 255,0,0. That worked for me.
What version of WED it is? (open WED hit ALT-H, ALT-A and post the whole
top line of the AboutBox contents)

Otherwise, is there no way to upload your level? If you can, upload all THREE
level files, level.WMP, level.WMB, and level.WED please. (no models required)

Thanks for looking into this.

I have A7.7. Pro.

When I say default build, yes I mean hitting the Default Build button. I did it for (RGB)= (255,0,0) for sun and ambient, and still do not get any light in the level.

I just sent the level files (compiled version included) to your [...].net.au e-mail address.

I'll take a look at it when I get home tonite, thats my home email.
Thats about 8 hours from now though...

Sorry bout the delay, I forgot to check my email,
so I forgot about your problem.
Sorry dude.

Its hard for me to test well, cause your wads live
in a different card-drive path to mine,
but anyway, I think I see it.

Go to your compiler options and turn the "Lit Meshes Only" flag OFF.
Let me know how it goes...

Don't worry about it. I'm just glad you're willing to help!

In the meantime I resinstalled 3DGS from scratch on my PC. Did not change anything.

Tried your solution: yes, setting "Lit maps only" to "off" helps. Now I get ambient and sunlight. However, I only get grey ambient no matter which ambient color I choose.

And if I add a light in there, I get no sun at all.

Thanks for your help!

Sorry, Im out of ideas.
I get the same as you, but I dont know why.
The ambient just seems to stay "locked in" no matter what you set the
map properties ambient to be.

But I dont know WED well enough to say if this is "normal" or not...

Best of luck.

Ahhh, at least now I know that I am not the only one!

Thanks for the confirmation. I do not know WED either too well, but this is not how it used to work.

I'll try reverting to an older update of A7 to see if that helps. Too bad: I was really looking forward to putting nice shadows on my terrains.

Thanks again for your help.

What was the resolve to this?? I am using A7.86 Pro and have this same intermittent problem.

Did all the yada yada crap of reinstalling A7 etc.

DX is up to date... etc.

And; don't recommend "updating to A8" as an answer, please.

Thanks.

Did you try to place one or more dummy lights in your level, maybe even in range of your block?

Btw. welcome back!