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Model Security #282824 08/04/09 00:49 08/04/09 00:49
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 245 PA Garrettwademan OP Member
Garrettwademan OP Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 245 PA	I am not sure if this has been suggested, but I would like to see an import model protection. Saying I develop my multiplayer game successfully and distribute it, there is nothing stopping the players to make a small cube and replace the name so my game imports it instead of the "wall.mdl" file, and the players can cheat by breaching walls. If it is out there, maybe post a link, I can't find anything on it. Current Project: Computer Repair Simulator https://www.computer-repair-simulator.com

Re: Model Security [Re: Garrettwademan] #282825 08/04/09 01:30 08/04/09 01:30
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,608 mk_1 Expert
mk_1 Expert Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,608	Collision should be done server side, there you go. Besides you could add a crc check on the model files to see if it has been edited. There're ways to solve that "problem" but then again protecting models isn't hard to crack, too. Follow me on twitter

Re: Model Security [Re: mk_1] #282843 08/04/09 09:18 08/04/09 09:18
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,930 Austria Dark_samurai Serious User
Dark_samurai Serious User Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,930 Austria	Two methodes: 1) If you own Professional, publish in Resource mode. 2) If not, use a third party tool like the one from Techmuc. ANet - A stable and secure network plugin with multi-zone, unlimited players, voip, server-list features,... (for A7/A8)! get free version

Re: Model Security [Re: Dark_samurai] #282849 08/04/09 09:30 08/04/09 09:30
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,900 Bielefeld, Germany Pappenheimer Senior Expert
Pappenheimer Senior Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,900 Bielefeld, Germany	Originally Posted By: Dark_samurai If you own Professional, publish in Resource mode. Maybe, it has changed in the meanwhile, but this doesn't help, when the user knows the model's filename, because then the engine prefers the model outside of the resource against that in the resource. http://www.puppenheim.org/ http://www.wuerfels-welt.de Old Game Tutorial: http://www.puppenheim.org/MITutorial.zip Free Game Editor: http://puppenheim.org/AlienalsWeihnachtsmann.zip http://www.puppenheim.org/blender_starting_main_settings.txt

Re: Model Security [Re: Pappenheimer] #282866 08/04/09 11:22 08/04/09 11:22
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,986 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,986 Frankfurt	If a user replaced a model, the server still has the original model. The user can't breach a wall this way because server updates override client movements. What we can implement, however, is an option to lock a resource so that its content can't be replaced.

Re: Model Security [Re: jcl] #282867 08/04/09 11:29 08/04/09 11:29
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,930 Austria Dark_samurai Serious User
Dark_samurai Serious User Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,930 Austria	[edit]Maybe, it has changed in the meanwhile, but this doesn't help, when the user knows the model's filename, because then the engine prefers the model outside of the resource against that in the resource.[/edit] I didn't know that... [edit]What we can implement, however, is an option to lock a resource so that its content can't be replaced.[/edit] This would be indeed useful. ANet - A stable and secure network plugin with multi-zone, unlimited players, voip, server-list features,... (for A7/A8)! get free version

Re: Model Security [Re: Dark_samurai] #282882 08/04/09 13:20 08/04/09 13:20
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,506 Germany F fogman Expert
fogman Expert F Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,506 Germany	Yeah, both options are useful in some cases. Easy patching vs. security. Would be nice to have the possibility to change between them. no science involved

Re: Model Security [Re: fogman] #282884 08/04/09 13:44 08/04/09 13:44
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,838 take me down to the paradise c... Cowabanga Expert
Cowabanga Expert Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,838 take me down to the paradise c...	Quote: If not, use a third party tool like the one from Techmuc. It's not released yet.

Re: Model Security [Re: Cowabanga] #282887 08/04/09 14:00 08/04/09 14:00
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 9,859 F FBL Senior Expert
FBL Senior Expert F Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 9,859	Ok, I might now be mixing up things, but what's the .pak extension for then? I always thought if we want to be able to replace resourced files we need to name them .pak and otherwise it does not work? What is .pak for then?

Re: Model Security [Re: FBL] #282893 08/04/09 14:15 08/04/09 14:15
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,838 take me down to the paradise c... Cowabanga Expert
Cowabanga Expert Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,838 take me down to the paradise c...	The type of the file doesn't matter. Because it's just using the file for saving the files. You can make it like: .cowabanga or .firoball or simply .pak . (And even blank!!) And so on...

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