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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Silence_] #295258
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There is no "type" of reverse engineering involved lol not even CLOSE, look up the term before you use it tongue

It's basicly just a window that is always active untill the engine is launched, when the engine launches it retrieves the handle of the startup window I created and terminates it in the engine window procedure overwritten with on_message.

Basicly a while loop which keeps calling sendMessage(blabalblaa) to the engine window, and inside on_message, when it catches it once, it terminates the visible window. So no I don't see anything illegal here, it's the same as launching an internet explorer when you launch the game and the internet explorer window hides the engine startup window, and when the engine launches, you could terminate the internet explorer window with FindWindow function from WINAPI

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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Enduriel] #295260
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Oh, ok sorry.

But I’m pretty shore that the licenses terms say something about that the original start up screen has to stay visible.

PS: I saw you video on you start up start it looks really cool. If it turns out that you can use it you have to tell me how you did it in better detail. grin


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Silence_] #295261
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The original window is still virtually visible grin just not at the top list of active windows >_^ theoretically this is 100% legal if the license term is the way I remember, haven't checked it for a while.

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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Enduriel] #295263
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the only bad thing at that window.. is that bad style..

shitty white with black letters and that logo at the upper right..

BAD


But.. shit happens.. the Engine functions are important.


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Enduriel] #295290
10/24/09 06:56
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Originally Posted By: Enduriel
The original window is still virtually visible grin just not at the top list of active windows >_^ theoretically this is 100% legal if the license term is the way I remember, haven't checked it for a while.


indeed if that works this way, it seems legal, crious for JCL's input.


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Quad] #295313
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Yes..
If jlc gives his GO, it would be nice if someone can Code such a little window.


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Espér] #295328
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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Enduriel] #295329
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guess he meant, if someone shares it as a cont. and that someone would be you i guess, if that gets allowed of course.


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Quad] #295345
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Yes, As a contribution...

Something like:

you compile your main.c/.wdl and put a Logo image and the window-Thing in that Folder. If you Start that windowthing, it uses the Logo and Starts the Game.


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Re: No startup window upgrade? [Re: Espér] #295353
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That's possible Esper. But very limited, you would also need a .ini file for the path of the game. Because the startup.exe would not know where the game is and what the name is, because all the startup.exe does is run a file by a given path and then retrieve the HWND of it, send messages to that HWND in a loop with the HWND of the startup.exe, as soon as the lite-c application catches it I can terminate the startup.exe cause it just retrieved the HWND of the startup.exe.

What if you wanted to have a button, or two. What if you wanted to have an animation of a logo. Or something moveing around in the window, custom cursor, music for background, sounds for the buttons. All these are possible in WinForms with .NET in visual studio 2008.

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