I was wondering if anyone on the forum has had their swine-flu vaccine yet?
Also if anyone is going to not have one?
There are (as always) some proclaiming the pros and some proclaiming the cons.
It would be interesting to hear your views.
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AND how is it possible for anyone to predict for certain that an epidemic is coming?
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interesting link
http://www.culttv.info/viewtopic.php?p=6930
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-...ouTube-hit.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDxJgJRqPng

The swine flu is not more dangerous as any other yearly
flu.
Its just that the swine flue has the same base as
the Spanish Flu, but its simply not as
fatal.

I dont understand all the publicity about that particular flu.

You should ask: Do you get vaccine for the normal flu also

exactly, i hate that everyone is acting like this is a huge deal.

Yeah you often get the impression that this is just about making money for the pharmacy industry. The swine-flu might be more infective than the standard flu but people were made very aware of it (which imo is a good thing) and so there still die more people from the standard flu(s) than from swine-flu. The whole drama in the media is totally artificial (especially during the time the swine-flu was a new topic where people predicted thousands of deaths in bigger cities in no time)...

That together with the toxic additives the vaccines of today include are my reasons for not getting one...

There of course also is the general question of how effective vaccines are and if the additives don't do more harm than the vaccine itself does good. Imo an interesting topic where imo the critics get too much "stupified" by experts and the media in general...

Enjoy your meal
Toast

I was on vacation in Turkey and they even scan your body temperature to detect swine-flu at the airport.

A perfectly healthy 14 year old girl died on the swine flu recently. She's not the only healthy kid who died from the disease. In the Netherlands the Swine Flu is not given to healthy persons, only to people with health problems or above a certain age. The government is now debating whether or not to give children the vaccine as well.

yes, but perfectly healthy people die from the regular flu too, doesnt mean when I start puking I'm going to call 911.

It's like sars, from my understanding, after a little medication you were fine, and the only issue with it was is that it is very easy to spread. but the media flared it up into this giant life threatening epidemic like it was going to take humanity off the face of the planet.

36.000 die every year in the US by the normal influenca.

...if swine flue kills 36.001, then its over average fatal.
until then its media hype

The main reason for getting a vaccination right now is not so much to avoid feeling sick for a few days, instead, it's important to make sure as few people as possible infect themselves. The more people infected, the higher the risk for dangerous mutations. Since a dangerous mutation (for which we would have no vaccinations, and which might be a huge danger down the line) should be avoided at all cost (since it could prove to be quite deadly - and, apparently, especially for healthy young males aged 14 to 49), it might be a good idea to get as many people as possible vaccinated.

That being said: The incredible speed in which we had to develiop this vaccine didn't allow as thorough testing as we'd like to have, so there's a valid case for concern. Especially given incidents like this.

Of course, I'm neither a medical professional, nor a media professional (like, apparently, most of you), so what do I know. But this discussion will never get interesting with a few pro-facts, so please refer to the above, thank you.

Well, the vaccine had a 2500% kill to save ratio
1 person died of the flu, 25 died of the vaccine for the flu.

Not really a promotion for getting the vaccine.