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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Damocles_] #295678
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Yeah, which is why it's not part of the "pro-vaccine"-part.


Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.

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Two videos showing pretty much certain vaccine side-effects (highly rare though but still it shows that there are several additives which can cause pretty much anything):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2e2B84r30&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFC3nxnEHg&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Toast] #295683
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I would not oppose getting the vaccine.
Its makes sense for old, sick, pregnant and infant people.
Just as suggested every year for the normal influenca.

But there is simply no additional argument for it beeing
the swine flu now.

I simply think its a hype about the name.
The media should say: there is a flu like every year,
get a vaccine (like you should get every year) to
pass a normal flu period like every year.

Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Damocles_] #295738
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i never had a flu vaccine. guess i'll just keep an eye on any symptomes that may occur in my family and than do whatever is neccessary

Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Damocles_] #295812
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Originally Posted By: Damocles_
But there is simply no additional argument for it beeing the swine flu now.


People with a higher risk should stick to their normal flu shot. I'm sure many people won't ever risk getting swine flu.

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I simply think its a hype about the name.


Yes, it clearly is. The media is all over normal flu deaths in our country. They instantly call every case a 'swine flu death', even though it isn't. There has been one case of a possible swine flu death, but its not even certain.

Additionally, the chances of getting better after a swine flu infection are very good. Many people won't even get sick to the point of being ever in a life threatening situation.

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The media should say: there is a flu like every year,
get a vaccine (like you should get every year) to
pass a normal flu period like every year.


Yes, and I wouldn't trade it for the swine flu vaccine this year just because the media cause a proverbial panic, instead the normal flu shot will really be enough for those who've always needed that.

For everyone else, just make sure you go to see a doctor when you get a nasty flu.


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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: PHeMoX] #295837
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The media may not say swine flu anymore anyway. They must call it H1N1. This makes it already sound way less hyped. Last months I haven't heard any news on tv about it (not that I watch much).


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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Joozey] #295847
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it is being debated right now , that getting the vaccine should be made mandatory! for all u s residents ... land of the free my ass!

Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Joozey] #295919
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Originally Posted By: Joozey
The media may not say swine flu anymore anyway. They must call it H1N1. This makes it already sound way less hyped. Last months I haven't heard any news on tv about it (not that I watch much).


Just when it started to really fade away, the media here came with news about how 10 new people every day with flu are hospitalized, with one out of every 10 going to intensive care.

It is SUGGESTED these are all Swine flu (or as we call it Mexican flu) cases, but they are not. These are normal flu cases of people that want to make sure they do not have H1N1.

To bad the media reports stuff like this as if there are 10 new cases of swine flu every day, as that's not at all the case. For some reason official numbers (and locations) of true cases of swine flu aren't made public, hence why the media is doing their guessing-game.

Again, I'd say be cautious, but don't let them scare you with bs.


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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: PHeMoX] #296099
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Originally Posted By: PHeMoX

It is SUGGESTED these are all Swine flu (or as we call it Mexican flu) cases, but they are not. These are normal flu cases of people that want to make sure they do not have H1N1.


Ignore the media and go with the CDC ( http://cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm ).

Most of the flu cases in North America and Europe are H1N1, so that part isn't hype.

It also appears to be more deadly to people under the age of 24 (normally flu kills the very old and very young).


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Re: Vaccinations - Impfung [Re: Doug] #296196
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@Doug:
I have to say I don't really see any evidence for what you say on that website so maybe you should explain a bit more...

I only found THIS GRAPH to actually give any clue about some kind of H1N1 numbers which doesn't give any real info on the topic of real H1N1 infections though...

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