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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 04:32
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My understanding is old, and largely based on mass-media supplied information, with my own conclusions drawn from that information. So I could well be wrong.
So my belief is that HIV is the actual virus, and AIDS is a 'potential' symptom of it. So if you are able to keep the HIV "under control", then you may be able to prevent it from developing into full-blown AIDS. HIV itself has few symptoms, but if it progresses to AIDS, then the AIDS symptoms will kill you.
As for the side-effects of the anti-retroviral drugs, who knows? But if you have full-blown AIDS, what have you got to lose....
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 05:57
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Thanks for your reply.
As I understand it, AIDS is defined as symptoms for a group of around 30 diseases when a patient is HIV positive. So by that logic...
Teberculosis + HIV = AIDS Teberculosis + no HIV = Teberculosis
Even though both scenarios produce the same Teberculosis symptoms such as frequent coughing, blood in sputum; just because the patient is defined as HIV positive, he/she is said to have AIDS.
This doesn't make sense. What role does HIV play? Maybe I'm missing something.
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 10:39
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AIDS is a failure in the immune system caused by HIV, which is a virus. HIV doesn't always cause AIDS, but often does. I don't see the problem here.
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 10:58
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everyone is certain to die, actually we are all currently dieing. Time kills people.
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 11:11
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Radiation will kill us before time is able to. I also think the reasons as to why your immune system collapses when having AIDS still isn't understood yet... Depends how deep you want to know it. But it seems to be generally assumed that "disease killing" cells and "disease detecting" cells are the primary target of the virus, the former playing a keyrole in killing diseases, the latter to indentify infected cells. Both are being destroyed by the virus.
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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08/22/10 11:36
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AIDS is what happens when you T-cells get destroyed. The HIVirus uses mainly the T-Cells to multiply, thus detroying the cells. Without T-Cells your immune system breaks down, opening the door for a variety of other viruses and bacteria. Causing the symptoms of AIDS. -- Its like a virus detroying your PC virus protection and firewall. The Trojans then entering will cause "PCAIDS"
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Re: Does HIV really cause AIDS?
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that's just a silly conspiracy theory. it certainly is proven that hiv causes aids. ...and with current medication hiv can be kept under control in the majority of cases. if you are hiv positive you still have a bit lower life expectancy though since the medication has side effects. Teberculosis + HIV = AIDS Teberculosis + no HIV = Teberculosis
that's also silly. both time it's tuberculosis. there aren't just the same symptoms. you can test for the tuberculosis germ, you know. but with aids (which also is testable and causes that the immune system doesn't work properly anymore) you can get tuberculosis and other diseases much more easily and they are much harder to treat.
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