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Re: I Hate WED [Re: Joozey] #358563
02/12/11 00:31
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I'm doing my levels with WED, too, and I like the block-approach.
What I really hate is the low speed of the view ports, too, and especially selecting something (blocks, surfaces, entities) is a pain.


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Re: I Hate WED [Re: Superku] #358568
02/12/11 02:09
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My WED crashes regularly if I have the latest view drivers loaded. It just closes or freezes, giving me no chance to save. So I have to choose the oldest, worst drivers from the list in GXL Properties. They actually run a bit faster than the newer ones (presumably because they're "doing" less), but the 3D view looks terrible--and drastically different from the compiled level, which makes trying to select textures that work well together very difficult, as in the compiled level often the brightness or colors are all wrong whereas it looked fine in the WED 3D view.

Re: I Hate WED [Re: Logan] #358583
02/12/11 08:37
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I can mostly live with WED... but selecting blocks and entities is really really really annoying as soon as your levels get bigger.

Re: I Hate WED [Re: FBL] #358596
02/12/11 10:00
02/12/11 10:00
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Da wo du nicht bist! Muhahaha!
I hate it to work with WED it's to slow! when i move something i always see ligth and darkblue ....... boxes! I hope the new WED will be better!
xxxxxxx


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Re: I Hate WED [Re: xxxxxxx] #358602
02/12/11 12:04
02/12/11 12:04
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Nobody complaint about messed up texture alignments. Is this resolved?
I quit using WED with blocks years ago because of this. I only use it for certain projects to place models. That's it.

Re: I Hate WED [Re: xxxxxxx] #358606
02/12/11 12:42
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Originally Posted By: xxxxxxx
I hate it to work with WED it's to slow! when i move something i always see ligth and darkblue ....... boxes! I hope the new WED will be better!
xxxxxxx

You can change the thing with the blue boxes in WED preferences. Also, you can choose different video drivers and settings to increase the performance wink

Re: I Hate WED [Re: Rondidon] #358611
02/12/11 13:07
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Rondidon, the screenshots of your game look pretty good.
Did you do all that level building in WED?
Does this mean that texture alignment is reliable?

Re: I Hate WED [Re: Pappenheimer] #358627
02/12/11 14:34
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Yes, the levels are 100% designed in WED (geometry, texturing etc.) and MED for terrain and models (file conversions, model texturing). I import most models as level geometry in WED.
Texturing is no problem in WED. It used to be in A6, but in latest A7 it´s okay.

Re: I Hate WED [Re: Rondidon] #358634
02/12/11 15:09
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Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
It's view ports, as pointed out previously, are incredibly slow.

Open your settings. Set the rendering method to a different DLL. Problem solved.

Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
Navigation in them is horrible (when compared to other editors or to 3D applications).

Change your key bindings! I set mine up to be a standard WASD control scheme. You should do the same.

Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
Snapping (which is fairly essential) is terrible (as you pointed out).

You're right, snapping really is a problem. I find myself constantly repositioning unruly vertices and edges all the time. That's the only thing that really bothers me about WED, though.

Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
The visual quality of the view ports is equally poor.

You can see well enough to do what you need to do, though. This isn't really much of a problem.

Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
You cannot easily manipulate items in the left-side list (only one item there can be selected at a time, moved at a time, etc).

Now that's a real problem that I never thought about. Still, I've never had to use that list, so it doesn't bother me too much.


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Re: I Hate WED [Re: Redeemer] #358641
02/12/11 15:36
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"You cannot easily manipulate items in the left-side list"

You can select multiple items when you hold "strg", like in any other app.
Then you can set flags for all objects for example.

For duplication offset: You can set it in the preferences to 0.

Sorry, but for 50% of the complains you get a RTFM from me. wink
But at the bottom line you´re right, there are some annoying little... surprises in WED.

I´m crying out loud on a regulary basis, too.


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