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Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: Quad] #368294
04/23/11 20:44
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Because I needed help.

Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: Joquan] #368359
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Let's make sure we understand the difference between helping you and doing your work for you.

Helping you would be giving you advice, information, and perhaps simple assets on a need-to-know basis.

Doing your work would be putting a substantial amount of time into creating assets for you which you could then put to use anyway you please.

We will be happy to do the former, but you must do the latter yourself.


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Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: Redeemer] #368361
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To me, I think that helping can be advice or info, but it can also be working with me to create an awesome project.

Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: Joquan] #368362
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Actually, every conversation with Joquan follows the same pattern

1) A new awesome project which needs help
2) Trying to convince the people that they need to help because the project is awesome
3) All people are stupid and don't see the potential of the project
4) Repeat

You can thank me later for the spoiler.


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Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: WretchedSid] #368364
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@Joquan: So if I asked you to help me with my homework, would you do it for me?

No, you wouldn't. You would explain to me what needs to be done, how to do it, and then you would set me off to do it myself.

That is exactly what we are trying to do with you. We will be happy to give you some pointers or advice, and then set you off to do it yourself. But you keep coming back, because you want us to do your work for you.

Well, sorry.

Not. Gonna. Happen.


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Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: WretchedSid] #368390
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Originally Posted By: JustSid
Actually, every conversation with Joquan follows the same pattern

1) A new awesome project which needs help
2) Trying to convince the people that they need to help because the project is awesome
3) All people are stupid and don't see the potential of the project
4) Repeat

You can thank me later for the spoiler.


You know, this is the step process that I want you to follow:

1) Shut up and stop trying to insult me.
2) Don't sit here and condemn ideas for no reason whatsoever.
3) Repeat.

[hr]

@Redeemer - Haha, actually I would help you get it done. That's just me. I believe that you can't just learn solely by words. If you're going to be this way, I guess I'll need to search elsewhere for help. I never ONCE said that I want you to do all of my work for me. I need extra help, because at the current time, I don't have the time to work on it.

I will also accept tips or advice as well, but I really need at least one person who can write reviews and articles. That's all I ask, I can do the website portion.

Sorry if that came off troll-ish, I'm just really mad right now.

Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: Joquan] #368391
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Originally Posted By: Joquan
You know, this is the step process that I want you to follow:[...]





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Re: Warriors of Gaming [Re: WretchedSid] #368400
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Originally Posted By: Joquan
Haha, actually I would help you get it done. That's just me. I believe that you can't just learn solely by words.

I wasn't talking about examples. Would you really do my homework for me? I'm almost certain you wouldn't, for two three reasons:

1) Ol' Teach would hate it. :-(
2) I wouldn't learn anything.
3) It would be a waste of your own time.

Here's something else you need to think about: why does anyone need to include you in this project? What's stopping anyone from copying this website in just a day? I mean, come on... In a nutshell, all you have do to build these websites is register an account at smfnew, install a theme, and create some sub forums. Even if you didn't have a fancy web gui to do that, that would be a 30min job at max. So what makes you so important to the project?

I ask that question because quite frankly, nobody likes following an incompetent leader.

So how about you prove yourself otherwise by doing the following:

1) Stop badgering people to help you with your own personal projects which you can't be darned to work on much yourself.
2) Start creating some real content yourself. Write some reviews in your spare time. Upload some videos. Populate your website with stuff YOU made.
3) It will be slow, but keep up this process until you attract visitors.
4) Wait until people start contacting you, asking if they can help with the website.
5) Watch your website grow.
6) PROFIT!

Last edited by Redeemer; 04/25/11 02:55. Reason: apparently, I can't count anymore. :P

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