Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight?

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Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? #394170 02/10/12 17:17 02/10/12 17:17
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America Redeemer OP Serious User
Redeemer OP Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	Hiya, It seems view entities are no longer affected by sunlight, so they only reflect flat diffuse lighting. The albedo variable seems to have no effect on view entities. Is this true, or have I done something wrong? If it is true, is there any way I can fix it? Thanks. Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Redeemer] #394296 02/11/12 18:01 02/11/12 18:01
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America Redeemer OP Serious User
Redeemer OP Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	Does no one have an answer to this? I still haven't been able to solve this issue myself. Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Redeemer] #394297 02/11/12 18:17 02/11/12 18:17
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany) Superku Senior Expert
Superku Senior Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany)	Hm I don't know how the lighting used to be or should be from your perspective, but as they are not present in your level, IMO they should not be affected by sunlight. You can check if the sunlight has any influence on your view entities by setting sun_light and similar parameters (in particular the angle) dynamically and assign a material that has sunlight relevant properties set to a high value. "Falls das Resultat nicht einfach nur dermassen gut aussieht, sollten Sie nochmal von vorn anfangen..." - Manual Check out my new game: Pogostuck: Rage With Your Friends

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Superku] #394304 02/11/12 18:40 02/11/12 18:40
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Redeemer OP Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	I've tried playing around with the sun variables, but that didn't produce any useful results. View entities don't seem to be affected by sunlight at all, which is strange because they used to be affected in A6. I suppose I should mention that my project doesn't load WMB levels. I load empty levels (level_load(NULL)) and then populate the world space with entities. I wonder if that makes any difference? Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Redeemer] #394317 02/11/12 20:14 02/11/12 20:14
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen Uhrwerk Expert
Uhrwerk Expert Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen	The difference is that sun's variables don't get set. Did you try: -sun_color -sun_light -sun_angle Did you ensure the view entities material is mtl_model? Always learn from history, to be sure you make the same mistakes again...

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Uhrwerk] #394325 02/11/12 21:53 02/11/12 21:53
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America Redeemer OP Serious User
Redeemer OP Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	Yup, did all that. It makes no difference. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Redeemer] #394348 02/12/12 10:56 02/12/12 10:56
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 900 Lgh rojart User
rojart User Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 900 Lgh	I've noticed the same problem, like code below. Code: #include <acknex.h> function main() { vec_set(sky_color,COLOR_BLUE); video_set(200, 200, 32, 2); level_load(0); you = ent_createlayer(SPHERE_MDL,0,5); vec_set(you.blue,COLOR_RED); you.x = 25; while(1) { sun_angle.pan += 10 * time_step; wait(1); } } But in A7 works very well: Regards, Robert Quote Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler. by Albert Einstein PhysX Preview of Cloth, Fluid and Soft Body A8.47.1P

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: rojart] #394371 02/12/12 16:02 02/12/12 16:02
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America Redeemer OP Serious User
Redeemer OP Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	So I was right after all. Well, that sucks. I was trying to create some first person weapons for a splitscreen game. I found that I couldn't use level entities since they had to remain invisible on every other view, so I decided to use view entities. But without any lighting, the models look extremely ugly... Maybe I should try baking some simple "lighting" right onto the model. It's better than nothing, I suppose. Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Redeemer] #394377 02/12/12 16:13 02/12/12 16:13
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany) Superku Senior Expert
Superku Senior Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany)	Why don't you apply a shader then? This diffuse lighting shader should be pretty much like the default mat_model material: http://www.conitec.net/shaders/shader_work2.htm You may/ certainly have to replace the sun vectors and variables with custom vectors (that you declare and set in your script). "Falls das Resultat nicht einfach nur dermassen gut aussieht, sollten Sie nochmal von vorn anfangen..." - Manual Check out my new game: Pogostuck: Rage With Your Friends

Re: Are view entities no longer affected by sunlight? [Re: Superku] #394380 02/12/12 16:34 02/12/12 16:34
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen Uhrwerk Expert
Uhrwerk Expert Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,225 Germany / Essen	He could use the predefined vectors as well, can't he? He just had to transform them to screen space before, right? Always learn from history, to be sure you make the same mistakes again...