As only AckCon is important - who really cares?

Fun read. It's nice to see Dan around, although I wish it were under better circumstances.

Was thinking of posting something similar, but this thread pretty much covers it.

I remember when I bought, I think it was, A5 from Best Buy in some sort of game making package. It was amazing! The templates worked, the forums were busy, and there were tutorials galore. But now? Life support.

I love Gamestudio. It got me into the business. I made many things with it, although it always seemed to be more of a struggle than it should have been. And now I've moved on. If these guys would step it up, I'd come back.

Forum is almost dead.. But even so, it's overflowing with those selling models/arts/bullshit members and I really feel sick to see almost only selling stuff in contribution threads. I'm not that old member, but when I just started working with GS, I remember there were a lot of stuff shared for free, how members were trying to help each other and new members. I hope someday it'll come back to those good old times.

good old times never come back, and good new times can come, but only if work is done for it.

in this particular case it means continuous engine development to be up-to-date in competition, and have a good marketing alongside, to attract new users, and keep the existing ones. it would also require nice online content and easily available demos, videos, tutorials, and links to games released created by the given engine.

I think 3DGS is concentrating mainly on beginners and hobbyists who requires simple but complete tool-set and lower system requirements. and it's really good as a starting engine in 3D game creation. those who have some 3D art or C#/C++ programming knowledge, have better options.

and also the licence price and conditions are also important, but when you can download e.g. a cracked Unity Pro easily, probably a lot of people decide to use that because they know that they will never release a completed game (or they buy one licence when project is ready after some years to legalize the work). or use e.g. Esenthel where full functionality is available, you have to pay only when releasing a commercial project. or UDK. probably much better examples can be written...

I think many gamemakers underestimate Gamestudio 3D. Next to that, I have heard that the templates from UDK etc. are way better. Personally I dont use any templates anymore, I have used a template once but noticed it was heavily outdated.

However, if you have the freetime and hone your program & modeling skills often, you can create some wonderfull things with this engine.

As for the somewhat dying community, less gamestudio 3d programmers make us leftovers more special .

True words...
Just think about how fast you can create anything. For example i've done some movement like in diablo in just about 20 minutes which feels great to play
maybe i'm creating some game out of it or just some prototype
i tried to change the engine but in the most engines you are not free to create what you want

lol I am currently doing a diablo like game too. Gamestudio 3d engine is nice for an hack & slash, I am especially astonished by the lightning and the terrain bumpmap (second terrain skin). And since I dont use any height differences in the terrain, the editing in WED is less tedious (mapping has never been this easy ).

About 3DGS,
i see now Zorro project in the banner of the forums ???
What's happening with Conitec ?
Seriously people coming here is to make games and find a good engine !

Why doing some advert of a trading product to people here more interested in games ?
It should have is own forum not here and not be mixed with game making ?

What we should say if Unity 3D, Torque 3D, Esenthel Engine , Visual 3D etc ... would propose some threads about a trading product in their forum page ???

Really Conitec should not mix game making with trading tools, it makes them like some company doing several things at same time and not concentrated in one priority only :
GAME MAKING ??

Well perhaps , it's 3DGS beginning to sink ?
like Blitz3D , only the fans or new comers to 3D will remain ?

I like it, but i don't like how things are turning this time.

yes, this Zorro thing seems to have not really the best effect on 3dgs development...