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Re: any tips about earning the spread ? [Re: firesell] #435459
01/08/14 10:05
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You seem to have totally lost me here. Maybe some more knowledgeable can chip in at the right time and help.

Re: any tips about earning the spread ? [Re: ] #435461
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Maybe you mean high frequency trading? If that is what you mean, it's not possible through a retail broker. The broker's spread is higher than any bid-ask difference you could earn this way.

Re: any tips about earning the spread ? [Re: jcl] #435465
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jcl is right. I don't think a retail trader stands any chance with commissions we have to pay and speed (read: slowness) of our executions. Trading against all professionals and HFT out there, no way!

firesell, if you're really serious about all this you would need a very large capital (to negotiate much lower commissions), a broker like LMAX or faster, a fast, collocated server near exchange, and a very good algorithm. And I think you would still lose, because you can't really compete with Goliath in their own game.

You certainly have heard that recently they clock their algorithms not in microseconds, but in nanoseconds? 'Nuf said.

Re: any tips about earning the spread ? [Re: ] #435469
01/08/14 10:46
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no there is no need to do hft since on average is a trade every 1/2 minute and bid-ask difference on average is 1 usd

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Re: any tips about earning the spread ? [Re: firesell] #435900
01/15/14 21:20
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Re: Earning the spread...

On very rare occasions, when LP's get out of sync, you will get a positive spread (Ask dipping below Bid), but there's no way that any retail trader is going to earn enough to make a living from it.

Re: On average there is a trade every 1/2 minute...

You might want to have a squizz at this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_k_elbBz8c


Have fun!
Radar =8^)
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