Those did not help...

Have you run a hardware test?

yes I previously said I ran Norton Diagnostics,"fresh diagnose", and "burnintest" they all came up with nothing...

Ok, then we would need some more information about when this happens. Does it only happen with a certain level or with all levels? And does if happen always, or random?

It happens in a level thats is medium complexity and before I add lights they build fine but when i put the lights it freezes when I get to the generating portals, also ive noticed my comp crashing while playing games like farcry. sometimes i get a bsod and it says 0x000008e.. and some other numbers

I did some research and found out that error usually has to do with memory, but ive ran multiple tests in the past few days and they all said my comp was in great condition. When im gonna build the level I even turn of windows explorer and some other things to free up resources, but that doesent really help. I have also recently noticed this freezing in graphics intensive games or apps so im almost positive its not just 3DGS.


thanks for all the support so far guys

Memory... How much memory does your computer have? You may not have enough memory. I was building a complex level with just 256 MB memory, so I'm theorizing that you have 128 MB. Also, try running a virus scan or spyware scan as they might be a problem. Also, disconnect from the internet, as something might be downloading without you knowing. These are some suggestions. I haven't read through this thread entirely, but the 7 or so latest posts between you and JCL.

I definently have enough memory(scroll up to see my specs) and like I have said I have ran many tests and they all came up with nothing

If you have a general crash problem with that PC, but Norton Diagnostics didn't find anything, it could either be a tricky, hard to find hardware fault - like a damaged capacitor on the mainboard - or some software running amok.

To test the latter, change the WED Video drivers in Preferences/Video Out to GXLBASE.DLL (the windows won't look right but you can ignore this for the test), and then start Windows in safe mode. This eliminates most drivers and programs running in the background. Now try to build that level in safe mode and check if it still hangs.

Okay I wil try that JCL, but I doubt its a software problem because I did a completly fresh install on a formated hard drive, but I took a look at my mobo and made sure everything was properly connected and secure and didnt see anything out of the ordinary...

once again thanks for all the help, this community is truly one of a kind